Killing Characters (TMC)

Keep in mind: I would personally contend that Hyrulean Adventure is after Link reverts to a child at the end of OoT, but there are those who wouldn't and this is for them.

We see Malon in OoT, before any other games, then she arises again as a character in HA, and, as of today, you can count on seeing her in The Minish Cap. I read how one NOA writer saw her(and Tingle) while playing TMC at E3.

This really disapoints me, unless there is a clear connection, I mean sequel status here, between this game and either OoT/MM and or HA, this will make me mad. I hate to judge early, but as it stands that just milking character recognition instead of finding something good and new. Not good style points.

I don't want the series getting gimicky and seeing the same things and people ad nauseum just to have the setting be more familiar.

Any thoughts on such things? I'd really hate this to start happening with a game like the new console one.

It is exactly these problems with the Capcom games that make me forsake them from the Zelda timeline. They're still good games gameplay-wise though.

I think Nintendo stated somewhere that HA would take place before all of the other games. Besides, I doubt it has any connection with OoT.

I think that Capcom make great GBA Zeld games and Nintendo make great Console Zelda games. Both type of Zelda games are all involved within the corrupt Zelda timeline.

I don't think that Hyrulian Adventure fits anywhere within the timeline so far. (Does Vaati appear in any other Zelda games, if he does, then Hyrulian Adventure fits either before or after this game)

No, FS is before all games, not HA. Personally, I like the nostalgic return of characters to games... but that's just me. I liked seeing Malon and Talon in OoT, OoS, HA, and MM (kinda). Sure, it may confuse the timeline, but the timeline isn't that important to the gameplay, you know?

Originally Posted by Reamia

No, FS is before all games, not HA. Personally, I like the nostalgic return of characters to games... but that's just me. I liked seeing Malon and Talon in OoT, OoS, HA, and MM (kinda). Sure, it may confuse the timeline, but the timeline isn't that important to the gameplay, you know?

Spoken like a true fan. Myamoto(sp?) has created a timeline where all of his games would abide by, however, just like you Reamia, he doesn't care for it as much as his protige(sp?) (for the moment, I forgot his name, but I'm sure you know exactly who I'm talking about). It has been rumored that the next guy finds that the timeline will influence with the gameplay, so he may reveal to us what the true Zelda timeline is when he takes over.

-BGS

Thanks, BGS! ^^
I've always thought that the timeline in Zelda wasn't terribly important to the story, and while I occasionally think about it, I don't think that it matters too much. I think that's how Miyamoto intended it to be. For that reason, I don't think it's very neccesary to stop using characters just because they confuse parts of Zelda's chronological order.
By the way, I assumed that Tingle would be in TMC, as he is in all recent Zelda games, but is it confirmed that Malon is in it as well? If so, can someone provide a screenshot?

Originally Posted by Reamia

Thanks, BGS! ^^

No problem Reamia. Anything for a fellow Zelda fan.

-BGS

Reamia, you rock! I hate how all these people worry about these things, they just don't matter to the gameplay, do they?
Personally, I hate timeline theories-I tries to make my own once-then quit cos I got a headache! ^___^;

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

It has been rumored that the next guy finds that the timeline will influence with the gameplay, so he may reveal to us what the true Zelda timeline is when he takes over.

Well, thank God for that-hopefully it'll put an end to these silly timeline theories. ^_^;

Well, I don't see the timeline theories ending anytime soon. Aonuma said he wanted to connect the games, and then he releases "Hyrulean Adventure" which terribly confuses things. We'll need another game or two to figure out where this game and "The Four Swords" go.

I'm not one to repeat what has already been said, but Reamia's right. Having characters from zelda games appear in the capcom zelda games makes it feel more like the other zelda games, if that makes sense. if you didn't have them in there, it would feel different.

coud some one tell me what Ha is

HA= Hyrulian Adventure from Four Swords Adventure.

Originally Posted by Maxi678

I think that Capcom make great GBA Zeld games and Nintendo make great Console Zelda games. Both type of Zelda games are all involved within the corrupt Zelda timeline.

I don't think that Hyrulian Adventure fits anywhere within the timeline so far. (Does Vaati appear in any other Zelda games, if he does, then Hyrulian Adventure fits either before or after this game)

yes vaitti appears in four swords(see aLttP on GBA)

Originally Posted by Reamia

No, FS is before all games, not HA.

Actually Four Swords is before Hyrulian Adventure and this is because in Hyrulean Adventure you are rescuing the maidens and I will quote from my A Link to The Past/ Four Swords Manual

Long ago, in the Kingdom of Hyrule, there appeared a Wind Sorcered named Vaati. Vaati could bend the wind to his will and used his awful power to terrorize many villages, Vaati would kidnap any beautiful girls that caught his fancy.

Many knights from the castel and other brave men set out to subdue the sorcerer and rescue the girls but each one fell in turn to vaati's awesome power. Just as people had begun to loose hope, a lone young boy travelung with little but a sword at his side appeared.

When this boy heard what was happening he said only, "I will defeat the sorcerer." He boldly entered Vaati's place, mystically trapped the evil sorcerer inside the blade of his sword, and reterund the young girls to their village. The boy then went deep into the forest and disappeared.

The villagers asked the girls how a boy so young could have saved them all and defeated the sorcerer when no one else could. The young girls told a story of how with just a wave of his sword, the boys body was shattered into four peices, each of which formed a complete copy of the boy. These four young boys then worked together to defeat the sorcerer. The people did not beleive the story, but they called it the Four Sword nonetheless. As rumours of the blades power too divide a person into four entities spread the people built a shrine to protect it.

Princess Zelda of the land of Hyrule was a beautiful young girl born with the mysterious power to sense approaching forces of evil. For this reason, she was assigned with the sacred duty of protecting the shrine of the Four Sword annd the blade itself. One day, Zelda was in Hyrule Castle when she sensed that something unusual was occurring at the Four Sword Shrine. [b]She asked a boy named Link, whom she trusted above anyone else, to accompany her to investigate the happenings at the shrine...[b]

Hyrulean Adventure would come before Four Sowrd because that is the quest where the young boy or Link goes to rescue the maidens. Also at the end it says that She asked a boy named Link, whom she trusted above anyone else. That can't be right because if Four Sword can't be before Ocarina of time because that is when Zelda first meets Link unless you use the next descendant of Link in Ocarina of Time.

^Yes, you're right, but since it was said that FS is first in the series chronologically (I think they said FS; maybe it was FSA? Can someone confirm this?), that is what I believe. But I know, Link already knows Zelda in FS. However, he also does in FSA, so it seems impossible for either to be first in the series.

I don't remember where they said the Four Swords was the first in the timeline also I do not own FOur Swords Adventure so I'm going off of what I have heard of it.

Aonuma said that he thinks that "The Four Swords" is the "oldest" story in the timeline, with "Hyrulean Adventure" taking place sometime after that. Just because Link knows Zelda doesn't mean that the games can't take place first, as they would undoubtedly be a different Link and Zelda.

so far the 3D Zelda titles fit together flawlessly, and that might be where Nintendo is weaving something big, but the new 2D ones seem to be there just for fun and classic Zelda game play and nostalgia.

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

Aonuma said that he thinks that "The Four Swords" is the "oldest" story in the timeline, with "Hyrulean Adventure" taking place sometime after that. Just because Link knows Zelda doesn't mean that the games can't take place first, as they would undoubtedly be a different Link and Zelda.

hasn't there been a link and zelda in every game so far? I mean, link is the hero and the game is named after the princess