New Zelda Wii Has To Be Perfect?

Now they want it to be completely perfect before it ships, 2010 release date doesn't look so promising now...

Link: http://wii.ign.com/articles/106/1060447p1.html

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But they say that about all the Zelda games. They have to be perfect because the fans hiss about everything. However both TWW and TP had to make major cuts because of deadlines/Wii port demands. However...that simply isn't going to happen with this title.

Not done until it's finished. That's perfect in my eyes.

It's been in development for four years. It's got a better chance of being perfect than its predecessors.

I don't know why people keep saying the game is going to be rushed. Just because they are suddenly announcing it doesn't mean that they suddenly developing it. It's been worked on since 06.

Hey Reggie, I know you want to tell us more information. I CAN SEE IT IN YOUR EYES MAN. SPILL THE BEANS DAMMIT.

This game could possibly still reach the 2010 mark, you know. Sure it might be December, but that's still 2010. They seem to really be working hard and putting all their effort into this and I hope it shows.

I figure reggie just doesnt know for sure so he said that. Maybe he doesnt even know that they said this year, hes prob a busy guy and they just said that a few days ago.

A game can never be "perfect". There will never be a perfect backflip, a perfect "mexican stand-off" in a movie or a perfect Pasta Carbonara. No such things can exist. How transparent is applause? How papery is applause?

They are making a product and they think economically, no matter how many pretensions to artistry they make. They are not creating a philosophical essay that needs to be sublime and genial, but just plugging the customer's area of desire with a corresponding dildo.

If the marginal improvement to the product is worth the marginal increase in development time required for the improvement, they will wait with releasing. You want to see what embodies their entire rationale? Slide your thumb over the opposing tips of the other fingers.

Certain geniuses can stall everything, throwing a tantrum and delaying the whole show because they don't think their work will be done justice by the "amateurish" lightning or whatever. That's a status you earn, and I'm not sure if that status can even be achieved in games development as it is anyway.

So apologies for the pedantry, but one of the problems with the industry is the pretensions to "artistry" and "perfection". Look , if you force the customer to wait because the pasta isn't "perfect" according to you, the pretentious chef, the customer will leave. All that matters is serving a pasta that the customer loves and will return to the restaurant for. What the customer wants and will reward you for with continued patronage - that is perfection, product-wise. If your passion coincides, all the better for you.

Originally Posted by Kastanj

A game can never be "perfect". There will never be a perfect backflip, a perfect "mexican stand-off" in a movie or a perfect Pasta Carbonara. No such things can exist. How transparent is applause? How papery is applause?

They are making a product and they think economically, no matter how many pretensions to artistry they make. They are not creating a philosophical essay that needs to be sublime and genial, but just plugging the customer's area of desire with a corresponding dildo.

If the marginal improvement to the product is worth the marginal increase in development time required for the improvement, they will wait with releasing. You want to see what embodies their entire rationale? Slide your thumb over the opposing tips of the other fingers.

Certain geniuses can stall everything, throwing a tantrum and delaying the whole show because they don't think their work will be done justice by the "amateurish" lightning or whatever. That's a status you earn, and I'm not sure if that status can even be achieved in games development as it is anyway.

So apologies for the pedantry, but one of the problems with the industry is the pretensions to "artistry" and "perfection". Look , if you force the customer to wait because the pasta isn't "perfect" according to you, the pretentious chef, the customer will leave. All that matters is serving a pasta that the customer loves and will return to the restaurant for. What the customer wants and will reward you for with continued patronage - that is perfection, product-wise. If your passion coincides, all the better for you.

THIS.

And i mean really, Reggie is plainly a PR guy, take everything he says with a grain of salt. He's not going to say "Oh yeah, it's definitely better than Twilight Princess but it won't match up to Ocarina of Time." He's there to sell, period.

Perfect for me is perfect. And that's what the Zelda series is.

I remember my English teacher in High School saying that you you do not finish essays. You abandoned them.

This quote can be applied to anything made. Essays, art, music, games.

There will always be something that can be improved or added.

Originally Posted by Poe Black

I remember my English teacher in High School saying that you you do not finish essays. You abandoned them.

This quote can be applied to anything made. Essays, art, music, games.

There will always be something that can be improved or added.

Yeah...my art teacher says the same thing...When Nintendo feels it's finished and perfect...it's ready. Though, you could never add too much to this awesome freakin' series.

a little off topic but my art teacher said that a work of art starts out perfect, and that the more you add the more you detract from the overall piece of work. Lesson: too much can be bad.

Can I just say that perfection does not exist?

And also:

Originally Posted by Cayetgods

a little off topic but my art teacher said that a work of art starts out perfect, and that the more you add the more you detract from the overall piece of work. Lesson: too much can be bad.

This is also true. Too much can be a bad thing if Nintendo strives for complete perfection.

OoT is as close as you can get to a perfection game. Nintendo will have to lift their game to be back on that level again. And in their time span given, it doesn't look possible.

I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm sure it will be a great game though.

Originally Posted by Cayetgods

a little off topic but my art teacher said that a work of art starts out perfect, and that the more you add the more you detract from the overall piece of work. Lesson: too much can be bad.

As nice and poetic as that sounds, you're ignoring the commercial factor; it needs content or it won't sell.

Furthermore, you assume that they're adding anything at all. There's a lot of work to be done on video games that have no bearing on its artistic merit.

They have to be perfect because the fans hiss about everything.
Can you tell us more about them. Thanks.

Reggie is so out of touch with Nintendo he thought E3 would be a hit. Also, they say this about almost every Zelda game, and yet there's still much to demand despite how excellent the games are. I don't think it's possible to accommodate to the amount of expectations people set forth for Zelda games unless everyone can find patience in the amount of inevitable delays needed for development. Not to mention everyone's expectations in Zelda gradually seem to shift from one thing to another every so often in small ways.

Zelda Wii can't possibly be perfect, but I'm definitely expecting an incredibly damn good game. I'm confident at this point I'll be much happier with this game than I was with TP. That's enough for me.

Originally Posted by Poe Black

I remember my English teacher in High School saying that you you do not finish essays. You abandoned them.

This quote can be applied to anything made. Essays, art, music, games.

There will always be something that can be improved or added.

I disagree... ever heard the term "One more stroke of the brush would ruin the painting?" As an artist myself, I stand by that notion. There comes a point when although you can theoretically improve something, you know that continuing to mess with it will only serve in ruining it. That's when you know you're done.

If you expect the game to be perfect, you're headed for disapointment... There will always be some kind of flaw here and there... That's the kind of hype that ends up hurting a game more than helping it...

You expect to get the "OMG, Best Zelda EVAH", and get a good, but far from perfect, game instead, but you've set the bar so high that the game looks lame... It happened with Twilight Princess, for Gods sake! They announced the game saying it'd be bigger and better than any Zelda before it, and ended up being largely hated by the fanbase, despite being a great game...

On the other hand, no one expected much from ST (in fact, many people expected it to suck big time), and it ended up being considered a good game by most people...

I think that They should pack as much "perfect" stuff in there as they can. TP's problem was not enough "stuff"