Aonuma: "I've been remaking OoT for years", "Great change needed"

The Difference between the two platforms (Wii and DS) is big. The experience with Spirit Tracks, trying to enhance an already 'near-perfect control,' is what pushed us on learning how to rack our brains. With Wii it is the same, we want to make the most of its controls. We want the player to control the game in the best possible way. On Wii, the camera is more realistic. Graphics are more realistic, too, and controls have to be, therefore, much more realistic.

There were a lot of things we couldn't do [with Ocarina of Time] due to technical limitations. But I think we've been solving those issues with every Zelda since then. With each entry, I've tried to add things I couldn't do before. Actually, it's like I've been remaking it during these years. So if you ask me if there's going to be a Zelda remake... I thought I was making it all this time! So it maybe I haven't done well enough, I haven't been up to the expected level.

It's complicated. Past things belong to our memories, and they grow bigger in there. If you play Ocarina of Time nowadays, you notice that it's not that good. Sometimes it doesn't move as fast as it should, graphics aren't as beautiful as they should be; there are some confusing parts... Any present Zelda is technically superior. Everything goes faster, more fluid... but to best Ocarina of Time, a great change –comparable to what happened back then- must be introduced. And that'll be rather complicated.

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This is actually why they don't have any Timeline plan despite the little things they try to throw in, each main Zelda is basically a remake of the same premise.

Originally Posted by JaredThaJa

This is actually why they don't have any Timeline plan despite the little things they try to throw in, each main Zelda is basically a remake of the same premise.

Wholly and completely untrue.

Whilst the games borrow plot twists from one another.

But how is MM the same as AlttP? Or TP like WW?

But on topic

I can understand where he is comming from. There are times when you go back after playing one of the newer games, and you're frustrated with little things, like aiming arrows or horse back controls.

All the console games have pretty much been the same UI and gameplay style. It just improves from game to game as technology advances. But there is nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by Hazzle in a quote from Eiji Aonuma

If you play Ocarina of Time nowadays, you notice that it's not that good

Wow... if he was on this forum he's be flamed like a noob. Saying Ocarina of Time isn't that good because of the graphics and technical limitations is like George Lucas saying he has to constantly remake all of his films because the originals sucked without computer graphics. Graphics alone don't transmit what's on the screen, the music, the gameplay, the feel of the character, do. Those were better in Ocarina of Time than they were in WW or TP, Aonuma. Stop judging what you see on the screen by its resolution. Chess is 8 x 8 resolution. Have people stopped playing it?

Originally Posted by JaredThaJa

This is actually why they don't have any Timeline plan despite the little things they try to throw in, each main Zelda is basically a remake of the same premise.

But Wind Waker does NOT feel like a remake of Ocarina of Time. So not every game could be a remake. But I agree for an instance that Twilight Princess is a remake of OoT.

Originally Posted by MajorasWrath1

Wow... if he was on this forum he's be flamed like a noob. Saying Ocarina of Time isn't that good because of the graphics and technical limitations is like George Lucas saying he has to constantly remake all of his films because the originals sucked without computer graphics. Graphics alone don't transmit what's on the screen, the music, the gameplay, the feel of the character, do. Those were better in Ocarina of Time than they were in WW or TP, Aonuma. Stop judging what you see on the screen by its resolution. Chess is 8 x 8 resolution. Have people stopped playing it?

Hear hear! I was very surprised by Aonuma's comments about Ocarina of Time. He seems to have a rather superficial view of what made OoT a great game.

At any rate, I don't think this interview tells us that much, other than the fact that they're aiming to improve the graphics, and they're acknowledging each Zelda has built on what previous titles have accomplished to exceed them.

Originally Posted by MajorasWrath1

Wow... if he was on this forum he's be flamed like a noob. Saying Ocarina of Time isn't that good because of the graphics and technical limitations is like George Lucas saying he has to constantly remake all of his films because the originals sucked without computer graphics. Graphics alone don't transmit what's on the screen, the music, the gameplay, the feel of the character, do. Those were better in Ocarina of Time than they were in WW or TP, Aonuma. Stop judging what you see on the screen by its resolution. Chess is 8 x 8 resolution. Have people stopped playing it?

to tell you the truth, the newer star wars movies are pretty much a remake. They just have different characters and politics.

Originally Posted by Astarael

Hear hear! I was very surprised by Aonuma's comments about Ocarina of Time. He seems to have a rather superficial view of what made OoT a great game.

I dissagree. From my perspective, Aonuma was referencing only technical limitations when presenting those comments about Ocarina of Time. They are true; Ocarina has been clearly superceeded, and technology has allowed for greater things. I believe I understand what Aonuma is attempting to convey; Instead of recreating what made Ocarina successful, the focus is now upon embracing a large scale change to the franchise, similar in scale to the change that Ocarina itself bought.

I think this is a productive outlook.

Originally Posted by JaredThaJa

This is actually why they don't have any Timeline plan despite the little things they try to throw in, each main Zelda is basically a remake of the same premise.

Read: I have no clue what I'm talking about

Aonuma isn't talking about the stories or the timeline, he's talking about gameplay.

Originally Posted by JaredThaJa

This is actually why they don't have any Timeline plan despite the little things they try to throw in, each main Zelda is basically a remake of the same premise.

That doesn't mean at all that they don't have a timeline. He didn't mean they are literaly remakes, obviously since the story are completely different, but mor ein the sense that he's been aiming to recreate that spark that OoT had in gaining such noteriety.

Originally Posted by MajorasWrath1

Wow... if he was on this forum he's be flamed like a noob. Saying Ocarina of Time isn't that good because of the graphics and technical limitations is like George Lucas saying he has to constantly remake all of his films because the originals sucked without computer graphics. Graphics alone don't transmit what's on the screen, the music, the gameplay, the feel of the character, do. Those were better in Ocarina of Time than they were in WW or TP, Aonuma. Stop judging what you see on the screen by its resolution. Chess is 8 x 8 resolution. Have people stopped playing it?

A lot of what made OoT great though was that it was the first 3D Zelda. It made such a great transition bewtween platforms and featured great graphics for it's time. I'm not saying the game play wasn't great, but it alone is not enough to hold up it's reputation.

Originally Posted by JaredThaJa

This is actually why they don't have any Timeline plan despite the little things they try to throw in, each main Zelda is basically a remake of the same premise.

Link's Awakening? Majora's Mask? Different.

If you play Ocarina of Time nowadays, you notice that it's not that good.

Oh my god finally.

I've been saying it to you fanboys all this time, OoT is not perfect! Finally someone important agrees with me!

And yeah, I agree with that too
Ocarina of time sucks compared to the newer games

Originally Posted by MajorasWrath1

Saying Ocarina of Time isn't that good because of the graphics and technical limitations is like George Lucas saying he has to constantly remake all of his films because the originals sucked without computer graphics.

...Didn't George Lucas have all of the older films re-released with enhanced graphics and all that?

Originally Posted by MajorasWrath1

Wow... if he was on this forum he's be flamed like a noob. Saying Ocarina of Time isn't that good because of the graphics and technical limitations is like George Lucas saying he has to constantly remake all of his films because the originals sucked without computer graphics. Graphics alone don't transmit what's on the screen, the music, the gameplay, the feel of the character, do. Those were better in Ocarina of Time than they were in WW or TP, Aonuma. Stop judging what you see on the screen by its resolution. Chess is 8 x 8 resolution. Have people stopped playing it?

I disagree, the Music and pretty much everything was better in TP and WW for me.

Originally Posted by xJonahx

And yeah, I agree with that too
Ocarina of time sucks compared to the newer games

the reason its considered as the best by many is probably becuase the satisfaction level when you play that game first time at the time it come out.

When I play twilight princess I realised easily it has better graphic than all previous zelda games but when I played OOT first the time, my satisfaction was higher because it exceeded my expectation while twilight not perhaps because I expected too much.

Aonuma....

Well I'm really not surprised about this whole "remaking OoT over the years" . I'm just surprised that he finally admits to it.

Then again, Majora's Mask was a huge step away from the OoT formula, which is why is still my favourite Zelda Title to date.

After reading this article, it really gives me high hopes that Zelda Wii will take that same huge step like Majora's Mask did. *Conserves hype*

I doubt that Aonuma considers Majora's Mask to be a "huge step away from the OoT formula".

They share the same core gameplay mechanics and the same design principles. The only thing that's really different is the story structure.

I doubt that Aonuma just wants to make another "OoT with a different story structure".

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Originally Posted by JaredThaJa

I disagree, the Music and pretty much everything was better in TP and WW for me.

For once Jared, I agree with you.

I liked Wind Waker. I liked everything about it. The music was original, the atmosphere was original, the art style was definately brand new and it had just the right amount of references to previous Zelda games to still feel Zelda-ish.

Twilight Princess I also enjoyed too. Maybe it's just because I played it before I played OOT, but I enjoyed the way it was like a final polishing-off of the current Zelda formula, incorporated gritty realism whilst also keeping some of the exaggerated design elements of Wind Waker, and despite everything, I did quite enjoy some of the music, like the slightly off-kilter Ooccoo theme, and the foreboding song of Beast Ganon.

Twilight Princess I also enjoyed too. Maybe it's just because I played it before I played OOT, but I enjoyed the way it was like a final polishing-off of the current Zelda formula, incorporated gritty realism whilst also keeping some of the exaggerated design elements of Wind Waker, and despite everything, I did quite enjoy some of the music, like the slightly off-kilter Ooccoo theme, and the foreboding song of Beast Ganon.

i also really liked the music in the goron mines. I agree, TP is an excellent end to that sort of gameplay.