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I'm hoping there is voice overs in this game. I'm not talking about Link, just whatever is in the subtitles, someone is saying.
I'm of the opinion that voice acting in Zelda would sound incredibly corny and probably take away a lot of the whole fantasy experience. They could probably get good voice actors, but it'd still feel weird hearing people talk about Hyrule and the Triforce and Zelda and Gorons and Zoras and etc. Imagine if you stumble upon some Gorons and they talk to you in this very weird and effed up dialect?

No siree, I'd prefer text.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:41 AM
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I'm really not that bothered with waiting. I survived the gap between ALttP and OoT. Anyone who did the same has no right to complain.
Hahaha dude, your hands weren't even big enough to grab a controller, you were only a year old when Alttp came out! I bet the gap must've been a terrible period for you xD

Atleast the snes had an original Zelda title, wii hasn't yet, we only have a gamecube port with improved controls and the wii is entering it's fourth year if I'm not mistaking. So yes we have a right to complain
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:50 AM
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Hahaha dude, your hands weren't even big enough to grab a controller, you were only a year old when Alttp came out! I bet the gap must've been a terrible period for you xD
That's true.

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Still no. TP is still a game available on the Wii, regardless of where it was intended to be. It doesn't matter if it's an "original" Zelda or not.

In truth, we have no actual "right" to a video game.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:00 AM
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Still no. TP is still a game available on the Wii, regardless of where it was intended to be. It doesn't matter if it's an "original" Zelda or not.

In truth, we have no actual "right" to a video game.
In the strictest sense we have no real right, but we pay Nintendo so they can do their magic. They have to keep us happy if they want to keep it that way. You're familiar with the term 'the customer is king', right?
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Re: Zelda Wii Will Not See a 2010 Release

Yup.

But we're still not entitled to video games.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:14 AM
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Re: Zelda Wii Will Not See a 2010 Release

But does that take away our right to complain? Nope!
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Re: Zelda Wii Will Not See a 2010 Release

I suppose not, but what I said up there was more a figure of speech. We waited a long time between ALttP and OoT, and we got perhaps the greatest Zelda ever. I myself was too young to care for half the time it took (three years) but I do have older friends and relatives who did play ALttP when it came out and who did survive the wait until OoT.

People rarely count in handheld Zeldas. If we did, you'd realize that 2008 has been the only year so far where we did NOT get a Zelda game.
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Re: Zelda Wii Will Not See a 2010 Release

Instead of speaking English, I think it would be cool if the voice actors did all the lines in an existing but obscure language - then all players in the world would enjoy hearing an exotic-sounding language.
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we dont have to worry he said a estimate
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Yeah, but the problem is, it's mainstream ketchup, and you "hardcore" people don't really like it.
I didn't eve play it, and would like to. I played every Zelda game till Minish Cap, that's the last one I played. In a few years when Wii and GC become cheaper, I'll try the new ones. And I never played a "bad" Zelda game...
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:12 AM
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Instead of speaking English, I think it would be cool if the voice actors did all the lines in an existing but obscure language - then all players in the world would enjoy hearing an exotic-sounding language.
I like that idea. The residents of Hyrule Town could talk ye olde English.
And maybe the Gerudos could speak some middle east language or something.
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Something inside me sank when I read this comment.
As long as we don't get a cluster **** of a plot like Twilight Princess I'm not complaining

Spirit Tracks has an interesting plot behind it, it's probably one of the only reasons I'm excited about it

Also I've thought about it and decided to myself that voice acting would probably sound corny, no matter who is speaking

I just can't see it working for Zelda
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I don't see old Nintendo and Miyamoto releasing it before 2011. There's been too great of a history of the company delaying release dates to fit high console sales seasons and fleshing out the game itself. That concept art was NOT cool. Let's face it. It seemed brainstormy, if anything. Even the strokes are somewhat hasty. That was all about buying time.

I'm guessing this holiday season will determine every single step Nintendo will take from now on. The Wii Fit/New Super Mario Bros Wii combo is pretty strong, since old time gamers will probably have a hard time being persuaded into buying a Wii at this point, regardless of game(I'd go as far as saying that even Zelda wouldn't pack a significant punch on this crowd, that very likely already owns PS3 and/or the 360). Nintendo allienated the usual videogame consumer and the Wii is VERY far from being a reasonable choice for this crowd, price point, content and value-wise.

Should the Wii keep with the dwindling sales on the holiday season(which I find unlikely, but let's wait and see), we can expect a new console on the horizon. They've been playing around with split userbases and adoption rates from old users with the DSi. If they brough enough content in-box(better interface, better controller and better motion sensing with the Vitality sensor built in, GOOD internet, Netflix, an in-box fitness software with additional-free or not- downloadable content, native HD and upscalling possibility for old games) I can see everyone migrating easily to this new console. Their userbase is already huge, they just have to make them buy things all over again. You know, pretty much like the DS's been doing. Only difference is that the improvements have to be significant, for a handheld can be sold on price, design and novelty alone.

Nintendo should take a jab at Microsoft before they consolidate their notion as the ultimate gaming experience(that will probably be quite clumsy but people will devour it just like they devoured a pathetically imprecise Wii at launch) and while they're at it, take their place as the entertainment center of the house. Something that Microsoft's been trying to do with some trouble, for not having the same interface design sensibilities Nintendo has. My parents would feel like they're in a pool of mud and severed limbs should they try to navigate the XBL.
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Re: Zelda Wii Will Not See a 2010 Release

I am sure it's been said, but all Reggie said in the interview was he can't confirm the game for 2010, not that it wont "come out" in 2010. It's Zelda, it never really gets confirmed until 6 months before hand.
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I don't see old Nintendo and Miyamoto releasing it before 2011. There's been too great of a history of the company delaying release dates to fit high console sales seasons and fleshing out the game itself. That concept art was NOT cool. Let's face it. It seemed brainstormy, if anything. Even the strokes are somewhat hasty. That was all about buying time.
This.

On the bright side, Nintendo are sure to release a trailer within a year and a half of release.

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Should the Wii keep with the dwindling sales on the holiday season(which I find unlikely, but let's wait and see), we can expect a new console on the horizon. They've been playing around with split userbases and adoption rates from old users with the DSi. If they brough enough content in-box(better interface, better controller and better motion sensing with the Vitality sensor built in, GOOD internet, Netflix, an in-box fitness software with additional-free or not- downloadable content, native HD and upscalling possibility for old games) I can see everyone migrating easily to this new console. Their userbase is already huge, they just have to make them buy things all over again. You know, pretty much like the DS's been doing. Only difference is that the improvements have to be significant, for a handheld can be sold on price, design and novelty alone.
I find many issues here (not being offensive, don't hurt me ). I see you looking primarily from a "hardcore" perspective here.

1. The DSi was meant to appeal to people who haven't bought a DS yet, it was not meant to be an "upgrade", the reason it's doing so well is because of its expansion of the market.

2. "Better" won't sell to the mainstream. Nowhere in gaming history has something sold because it was "better" than its competitors. Much of the things you listed are far from the path of taking advantage of Nintendo's strengths. If Nintendo released a "better" Wii, chances are the people would continue to buy the original.

3. If the "improvements" were significant, that would drive up the price unnecessarily. This would hurt conservative old Nintendo in the long run. This is also a factor for the DSi's success, it's minimal improvements allowed it to stay at more or less the same price range.

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Nintendo should take a jab at Microsoft before they consolidate their notion as the ultimate gaming experience(that will probably be quite clumsy but people will devour it just like they devoured a pathetically imprecise Wii at launch) and while they're at it, take their place as the entertainment center of the house. Something that Microsoft's been trying to do with some trouble, for not having the same interface design sensibilities Nintendo has. My parents would feel like they're in a pool of mud and severed limbs should they try to navigate the XBL.
@ first bolded point: "ultimate gaming experience" is subjective. To lapsed and new gamers, the Wii offers a far better gaming experience than the HD twins.

@ second bolded point:

NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO

This "center of the living room" philosophy is part of what made the Wii outsell its competitors.

More features = higher cost.

More "suited" to be the entertainment "hub"
= More powerful
= games which take full advantage of the uber-powerful hardware ("escapist" games)
= What the mainstream DON'T want. Heck, this is the reason the PS3 would have fared far better if it had excluded Blu-Ray.
=Bad move for ol' Ninty

Many of those "entertainment" features are completely irrelevant to gameplay.

As you pointed out, MS has been having trouble with being the "entertainment center", but that's because of the PS3's competition and the fact that the mainstream don't want it.

As far as I'm concerned, if the above paragraph didn't apply, the 360 would dominate this generation and Wii would be left in the dust.
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I read up somewhere, and it says that the Zelda team is more busy than ever, and that they are more cared about the actual game coming out and being a success, than an actual trailer.
I do really want the game badly, but I think it may come out 2011, if not 2012. I also think I read somewhere that it was confirmed a new Zelda on Wii is in the making in 2008, if that is true, then guess what?! It can be released in 2010, but if it isn't, 2011. They are busy, busy, busy, so I can see it coming out 3 years after announcement, but still be in great shape. Also with Spirit Tracks, Miyamoto said they are making the new Zelda games for hard gamers, instead of appealing to new gamers.
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^Zelda Wii was already said to be in progress after TP came out (Zelda team is always working on console Zelda). It has already been three years in making.
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^Zelda Wii was already said to be in progress after TP came out (Zelda team is always working on console Zelda). It has already been three years in making.
Except they were talking about a new zelda game that ran on the same engine as TP, similar to OoT and MM, but somehow it translated to Link's Crossbow training .
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Miyamoto said they are making the new Zelda games for hard gamers, instead of appealing to new gamers.
lolwut?

Zelda would benefit far more if it expanded its audience.
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