Ah, well here's an idea.

It's becoming more and more obvious that the fanbase is sick of Ganondorf. Sometimes Nintendo tries to freshen it up by making characters like Agahmin. According to most sources Agahmin is Ganon's alter-ego (so says my GBA version) but also Agahmin is part of Ganon's soul when he split it in an attempt to get out of the Dark World. Think of it like how Ciela split her soul to free herself in PH. Or even how Link split in 4 when getting the Four Sword.

Here's my idea. What if the same ole' boring Ganondorf was defeated, sealed or killed in the beginning of the game and then several new characters emerge from him. His soul is split into several different entities with completely different motives and personalities. Some aren't aware that they are part of G-dorf and some are. Some of them are sadistic, some of them are sympathatic or even nice...etc. And Link's quest is to somehow make sure none of these characters meet to recreate Ganny, so he has to kill them or something.

What's the point? Well, I thought it was original but mostly because it could allow for more development on G-dorf's character, Who many consider bland. I love G-dorf, but I can't like him more until I know him more, ya know? I'd like to see a new perspective and stuff. I wouldn't want his other selves to be dungeon bosses though. =\

Thoughts?

played kingdom hearts, have ye?

I've only played PH, but that means ganon would turn into a one-eyed, flying, reptilian monster with lots of tentecales. Doesn't seem like Ganon to me.

I really like this idea. Perhaphs your partner could even be a part of Ganondorf, though he doesn't know it?? Why does this remind me of Mega Man X, though....?

the more I think about it, the more awesome it sounds. this would be EPIC.

Hmmm... a battle agains Ganny at the begining of the game? Nice

And if some of those Ganondorf parts are bosses in dungeons and some only unaware civilians, the game could be very dramatic

I like the idea

played kingdom hearts, have ye?

Sounds like a lot of games. I think it's a fantasy cliche...but I heard it first in Zelda. So...Yeah. xD I've played KH1+2, and plenty of RPGs.

I just think it would be a new fresh take on Ganondorf.

just sounded a lot like nobodies. which would be awesome implemented in zelda.

...Yeah it does, but it wasn't my first thought. For some reason Inuyasha comes to mind, and I can't even remember what that anime was about. Phantom Hourglass with Ciela losing two parts of her. A self with her memory and a self with her power of courage. Or something. Hm.

Sounds like something from Dragonball for some reason... I like it.

Originally Posted by astinktothepast

Sounds like something from Dragonball for some reason... I like it.

Pfft. xD well, now I don't like it.

I would play a Zelda game that impliments this premise. I especially like the idea that the game's Link would knowingly/unknowingly befriend a personified piece of Ganondorf's essence/soul. Of course, Link has had less than benign companions before (i.e., the fairy from MM and Midna of TP), but this would place him closer to his enemy than he's ever been, and for an extended period of time (presumably the majority of the game), thus creating what I imagine could possibly lead to a tension, or foreboding, throughout the game unlike what we've seen before in the series.

Like many TLoZ fans, I would prefer to put Ganondorf/Ganon to rest for a console game, or two, but such a premise as has been presented in this thread could very well reinvigorate an archnemesis that has been old hat for quite some time now.

Yeah, now that I think about it, having a part of Ganon as your ally would be an incredible plot twist. This isn't a bad idea, and it would certainly break the mold of the traditional and predictable Ganondorf villainy. It does sound like something straight out of a Kingdom Hearts game, though!

So what are they just parts of his personality or something? If so then there'd probably be one that is good and tries to help Link, one that only craves destruction, and one that carefully plans and calculates his strategy for success. ALthough what would happen at the end? Would he join back together?

Yeah, sure. =D Each with a different personality. Kind of like how the four Links are depicted in FSA.

Ganondorf's a pretty human character. Princess Zelda pitied him in OoT and in TWW I pitied him myself. He's got a caring side. D=

Originally Posted by Caelum

Yeah, now that I think about it, having a part of Ganon as your ally would be an incredible plot twist. This isn't a bad idea, and it would certainly break the mold of the traditional and predictable Ganondorf villainy. It does sound like something straight out of a Kingdom Hearts game, though!

I've only played a little bit of KH 1, and none of 2, so I wouldn't get this reference, but I do think that this idea could allow some amazingly complex and deep character/plot development opportunities.

Just imagine, Link knows his sidekick is a part of Ganon (maybe that part doesn't know), and the sidekick helps him track down all the other parts to trap or destroy or whatever. Throughout the course of the game, they become friends, and help each other out along the way, but Link knows in the end he must destroy his friend or risk Ganon coming back to full power....

That's hardcore....

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

It's becoming more and more obvious that the fanbase is sick of Ganondorf. Sometimes Nintendo tries to freshen it up by making characters like Agahmin. According to most sources Agahmin is Ganon's alter-ego (so says my GBA version) but also Agahmin is part of Ganon's soul when he split it in an attempt to get out of the Dark World. Think of it like how Ciela split her soul to free herself in PH. Or even how Link split in 4 when getting the Four Sword.

Here's my idea. What if the same ole' boring Ganondorf was defeated, sealed or killed in the beginning of the game and then several new characters emerge from him. His soul is split into several different entities with completely different motives and personalities. Some aren't aware that they are part of G-dorf and some are. Some of them are sadistic, some of them are sympathatic or even nice...etc. And Link's quest is to somehow make sure none of these characters meet to recreate Ganny, so he has to kill them or something.

What's the point? Well, I thought it was original but mostly because it could allow for more development on G-dorf's character, Who many consider bland. I love G-dorf, but I can't like him more until I know him more, ya know? I'd like to see a new perspective and stuff. I wouldn't want his other selves to be dungeon bosses though. =\

Thoughts?

It sounds like it would be fun. And it would certainly be a nice break away from the almost to predictable plots that Zelda has had recently.

Originally Posted by funkyd90

Just imagine, Link knows his sidekick is a part of Ganon (maybe that part doesn't know), and the sidekick helps him track down all the other parts to trap or destroy or whatever. Throughout the course of the game, they become friends, and help each other out along the way, but Link knows in the end he must destroy his friend or risk Ganon coming back to full power....

That's hardcore....

Nintendo could have had the "I must take up sword against my friend," development with Midna at the end of Twilight Princess. They just didn't have the balls to pull it off.

My own pet idea (a woefully insignificant exercise) is a Zelda game where Ganondorf is a young kid, yet to align with his maleficient destiny and role in the world. Zelda, foreseeing the trouble he will cause, kidnaps him with the purpose of sending the yet-to-be-evil child into some separate dimension to put a stop to the cycle of Ganondorf's resurrections once and for all.

Link, not ready to be a bystander to an unethical banishing of an innocent child despite the inevitability of said child's turn to malevolence, goes on a quest to acheive the means to prevent the dimensional exiling, and maybe to find a way to prevent the cycle of Ganon's appearances in the world.

So Ganondorf would still be around but with a completely different role and personality. Moral ambiguities and shades of gray for the win. After all, an "always good" battle against "always evil" just isn't relevant to humanity. Good and evil exists, but isn't predictably manifested in some magical manner but is rather accumulated in human minds.

That'd be nice, but I think Ganondorf as a whole needs takes a break from the series. I don't like the concept of various entities deriving from Ganondorf.

For the next villain, I want a female. Really, a female villain is due. She should be bizarre, bold, likable and hateful at the same time. And rather than being a one-time villain, she should be referenced and re-appear at various times for what rests of the series.