To everyone who complained about super guide...

In case you haven't seen this yet:
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/...-as-contra&a=2
Like many of us predicted, it seems the reason nintendo came up with this is that they're now able to raise the difficulty level for us "hardcore" gamers, while still letting casuals have their easy fun. I swear, if zelda wii will use this, it will probably be the hardest zelda in many many years.
Discuss.

Don't count on it. If ZWii has the nonlinear dungeons it SHOULD have, implementing Super Guide could be very difficult.

I think I remember hearing about this a while ago, but let me just get this clear: this new function, when activated, will turn your character into a computer and play for you until you turn it off?

While I am very relieved that there is a strong possibility of a challenge next time Zelda makes its rounds on the Wii, I still find it rather ridiculous that such counter measures are having to be taken to make sure non Gamers can cope. I mean come on, making the game play itself? Rather drastic... Nonetheless, if it means I get some difficulty in my Zelda, it's worth it.

Yeah, I'll be damned if I ever let myself sink low enough to the point of letting a computer get me past a tough spot in the next Zelda, but if putting in this function means the next game is going to make me sweat, then so be it.

Im happy about the idea of harder Nintendo games, especially Zelda and Mario. But this "super guide" isn't really getting me excited about why they can do it now. game playing for you? not really a game anymore.....

^ You have to die around 8 times to even access the feature. This only for people who are game inept.

Originally Posted by xJonahx

In case you haven't seen this yet:

Nice find, thanks.

Originally Posted by xJonahx

Like many of us predicted, it seems the reason nintendo came up with this is that they're now able to raise the difficulty level for us "hardcore" gamers, while still letting casuals have their easy fun.

YESSS!! This is exactly what I was thinking when the system was announced a while back.

However, we will still have to wait and see if they have any plans of introducing it to Zelda.

Originally Posted by lostleader

game playing for you? not really a game anymore.....

Well if people want the computer to play for them, then so be it. You don't have to use it, I sure won't. It is still an optional system - and options are a good thing.

It allows the newbies (i.e. normal people) to actually finish the games without dumbing down the difficulty. That is the sole reason to why the recent Zelda games were so darn easy; Nintendo has tried to create some kind of "universal" difficulty level to balance the games and that has obviously not worked well at all.

Originally Posted by Double A

Don't count on it. If ZWii has the nonlinear dungeons it SHOULD have, implementing Super Guide could be very difficult.

Not neccisarily. The super guide could show you the fastest and easiest way to do it, but for us real gamers we can do it anyway we want.

If a super guide was implemented in Zelda it would probably just be comparable to a hint function. Come to think of it, Midna pretty much is the super guide!

Originally Posted by Mauro

While I am very relieved that there is a strong possibility of a challenge next time Zelda makes its rounds on the Wii, I still find it rather ridiculous that such counter measures are having to be taken to make sure non Gamers can cope. I mean come on, making the game play itself? Rather drastic... Nonetheless, if it means I get some difficulty in my Zelda, it's worth it.

Alas, a Glaswegian on ZU, good stuff


I agree completely... If it's in & means the difficulty is cranked up to eleven. I'm all for it

I'll be overly excited if they crank up the difficulty to, well, difficult. I've been waiting for a challenging Zelda game for a few years now, and if Zelda Wii is it, I'll be very happy.

Even if I die 80 times, I probably still won't use the super guide. I like challenge. (:

I hope this will give them the opportunity to make the game more difficult.

Super guides are for NOOBZ.

Super Guide... is that the final name?

I'm pretty sure it's called Demo Play. You can't save when using it though. It's like having a video walkthough attached to the game.

Originally Posted by Zeldablue777

I'm pretty sure it's called Demo Play. You can't save when using it though. It's like having a video walkthough attached to the game.

If you let the game play for you, do you start playing again where the cpu left off, or does it just show you what to do and then you start playing where you left off?

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

If you let the game play for you, do you start playing again where the cpu left off, or does it just show you what to do and then you start playing where you left off?

You start where the cpu left off.
At least in NSMBW, dunno how it'll work in zelda

This upcoming fun smaller scaled side-scrolling Mario game shouldn't be compared to the likes of a big console 3D Zelda game to have a super guide in any way similar. It's still going to have to be Navi/Tatl/KoRL/Ezlo/Ciela/Midna style at the very least is what I think. While it's nice for an insanely high difficulty level to be there if some form of super guide is an option, I'm against a super guide in this kind of game. I like a happy medium difficulty level and I would find ways to make it harder for myself, and to keep the hard difficulty reserved in form of a '2nd quest' via LoZ style.

Casuals complained about TP being too hard. So zelda wii will either use super guide or be easier than TP. I'd rather have super guide myself.

Originally Posted by Erikson

This upcoming fun smaller scaled side-scrolling Mario game shouldn't be compared to the likes of a big console 3D Zelda game to have a super guide in any way similar.

What's the difference, really? Both games are 3D, only the camera is locked to a side-scrolling perspective on SMBWii.

You'd think Nintendo would be able let the AI control Link in their own game and have him solve the hard puzzles or beat hard enemies... you know, similarly to how NPC characters work.

Now if Zelda Wii turned out to be incredibly open ended, like the original LoZ, then "Super Guide" would be hard to implement - but I'm guessing Zelda Wii will be (at least) as linear as OoT.

Originally Posted by Erikson

I like a happy medium difficulty level and I would find ways to make it harder for myself.

IMHO, it's the developers' jobs to make the game challenging - it's not my job *thinks of 3-heart quests*.