Industrialization in Zelda

I would like to know what everyone thinks about the creators industrializing Zelda. Spitit Tracks uses a trian as a means of transportation. The transportation in Phantom Hourglass was a steam boat. Even in Wind Waker, they seemed more advanced the previous game. So I not only want your oppinions on this But also, what your ideas on what might come next as far as a game after Spirit Tracks in Industrialization.

I think that steam boats and trains are as far as I want to go. I mean, when you play Majora's Mask, there's a lot of technology sort of hidden in plain sight. But as a major gameplay mechanic, I think that's as far as I want technology in Zelda to develop. We can do without guns and stuff, thanks.

I agree with the no guns part. I don't think guns should be in any fantasy adventure game. Although maybe if there was the use of cars? Not new looking sports cars like how it is now, but something more like cars when they were first invented.

Well, as of yet, we've not really seen any actual industrialization. The steam boat and train are just advances in technology as of right now. Industrialization refers to introduction of industry on a large scale in an area which we've not actually seen yet, although if I recall correctly, the Gorons and their home at Death Mountain in TP might have had a fair bit of an industrial vibe to them.

Unless we see a steam punk Zelda (God forbid) soon, we probably won't be seeing substantive industrialization in a Zelda game.

Okay, well maybey not a full scale Industrialization, but how far do you think the technology will go? If trains now what next?

Originally Posted by Avalanchemike
Unless we see a steam punk Zelda (God forbid) soon, we probably won't be seeing substantive industrialization in a Zelda game.

Preach it, brother!

Originally Posted by Diz
Although maybe if there was the use of cars? Not new looking sports cars like how it is now, but something more like cars when they were first invented.

I wouldn't like that at all. It would totally ruin the whole point of Epona, which has become a huge gameplay mechanic as of late.

Originally Posted by Diz
If trains now what next?

Hopefully, not much else.

Originally Posted by Diz

I agree with the no guns part. I don't think guns should be in any fantasy adventure game. Although maybe if there was the use of cars? Not new looking sports cars like how it is now, but something more like cars when they were first invented.

What I think would be cool is if one side of the timeline goes into a "futuristic" direction, while the other retains the classic Zelda Medieval setting.
That's kinda the feeling I get when I look at Spirit Tracks.

That way, you can have so much variation when it comes to gameplay and storytelling.
Having two seperate lines that can have completely different futures... It's genius really, and developers won't have to be restricted to anything. The possibilities could be endless.

^ Hm, then the problem is whether to put all the medieval games on one side of the timeline, or to sort of put a general upgrading of technology as time evolves. But, yes, that'd be very interesting.

I must say that it is an amazing idea. But I am not totally for or against the idea. As for Epona, there is no horse in Wind Waker or Phantom Hourglass. Spirit Tracks shows the means of a train as transportation. Though, you could argue that there is no horse because everything is flooded. In that case, Spirit Tracks could have a horse as an optional means of transportation. I guess we will not know untill the games release.
Also, weather I like it or not, the games (tWW, tPH and sugested in ST) show advances in technology and I don't think that after the use of a train, they would just go back to everything being mideval. There's a more than likely chance that there will be more advances. Small advances, hopefully, but advances none the less.

I think it would be cool to see Link traveling by land, sea, and air, but neither form being too technologically advanced- keep it at just a horse, sail boat, and some sort of gliding machine/giant winged creature? We saw part of the air travel idea in TP, going from Lake Hylia to Zora's Domain, but I think it would be cool to see an expansion on that.

I also think it would be great to be able to travel from the main land of Hyrule to various islands off the coast, where there are other tribes/kingdoms, perhaps?

How about a Zelda game where, instead of Link doing all the time-traveling, he meets some visitors from the distant future.

It would still be medieval, but with a hint of futuristic technology.

Originally Posted by funky90
I think it would be cool to see Link traveling by land, sea, and air, but neither form being too technologically advanced- keep it at just a horse, sail boat, and some sort of gliding machine/giant winged creature? We saw part of the air travel idea in TP, going from Lake Hylia to Zora's Domain, but I think it would be cool to see an expansion on that.

Whenever I think of Link riding a giant winged creature, I think of Rallen from Spectrobes riding that pegasus-typed Spectrobe. If I wasn't so lazy, I'd include a pic, but...
Anyways, that last sentence reminded me of Majora's Mask, when Link uses the Song of Soaring, he grows wings and soars to the owl statue. Perhaps something like this (where you grow wings), only you actually control Link's flight path?

I also think it would be great to be able to travel from the main land of Hyrule to various islands off the coast, where there are other tribes/kingdoms, perhaps?

I would kill for this.

Orginally Posted by MrBaconsock
How about a Zelda game where, instead of Link doing all the time-traveling, he meets some visitors from the distant future.

It would still be medieval, but with a hint of futuristic technology.

OK, now I'm interested. Expand please!

Originally Posted by Fitoleon

OK, now I'm interested. Expand please!

Well, I havn't put much thought into it since it just popped into my mind, but I'll give it a try...

The plot could be based around a group of people who are from the future who bring along their own technology.

To the Hylian people, this could be perceieved to them as some super advanced magical power. There couuld be different vehicles and weapons that are similar, but not identical, to the kind of stuff we have today.
Or they could do a Furtue Link meets past Link kind of thing to give it a twist... I dunno

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock
The plot could be based around a group of people who are from the future who bring along their own technology.

To the Hylian people, this could be perceieved to them as some super advanced magical power. There couuld be different vehicles and weapons that are similar, but not identical, to the kind of stuff we have today.
Or they could do a Furtue Link meets past Link kind of thing to give it a twist... I dunno

The first part (about the people from the future) kind of reminds me of the original Star Ocean. People from a much more advanced planet come to a Zelda-esque planet to stop a virus from spreading... or something like that. I might be able to see how this could be implemented into Zelda.

The second part (with a future Link meeting a past Link) is probably the better idea, as it would grant for a lot of puzzle solving and combat (if they fight and move together) never seen before, especially if it was in 3D (as opposed to Four Swords). It kind of gives a Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time feel to it...

Wow, I play way too many Nintendo games.

Originally Posted by MrBaconsock

Well, I havn't put much thought into it since it just popped into my mind, but I'll give it a try...

The plot could be based around a group of people who are from the future who bring along their own technology.

To the Hylian people, this could be perceieved to them as some super advanced magical power. There couuld be different vehicles and weapons that are similar, but not identical, to the kind of stuff we have today.
Or they could do a Furtue Link meets past Link kind of thing to give it a twist... I dunno

I think you should make a thread starring this amazing idea ^_^
Or maybe something like another paralell ream to Hyrule, like the Twilight Realm, except they are way futuristic, and find a way to visit the other realms. They could show link how to do it and it would create amazing new posibilities.

I like the parallel world idea. Many fan-boys of Zelda don’t want it Hyrule’s future to be futuristic or industrialized, so by having one of Hyrule’s many alternate reams be futuristic everyone wins.

In my Zelda fan-fiction, Link starts out about 500 years after Wind Waker. As the story progresses, he travels to a futuristic alternate world, where instead of progressing mechanically like WW, PH, and SP, the world progressed magically. Small engraved crystals and gems are the main source of power in that world. They can create fire, call forth lighting, and with enough power even cause things to float. However a great war, that occurred 300 years earlier, destroyed much of the world’s population and much of the advanced technology was lost. While in that world Link explores the ruins of old cities searching for Lost Technology to help both that world and his own world which is suffering because of the main villain.

Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass are industrializing? Have you not seen the Goron Mines in Twilight Princess?

Originally Posted by Mandrag

Spirit Tracks and Phantom Hourglass are industrializing? Have you not seen the Goron Mines in Twilight Princess?

I didn't say that the goron mines were not advancing in technology. Although the goron mines aren't using coal or steam to make machines. That dungen is mostly about Magnetics.
Also, in my oppinion, it is irrelevant as WW and PH are on the adult timeline and ST seems to come after thoes games. TP is not even on the same timeline as them.

You know what I would like to see, The enemys becoming more technologically advanced as well. Perhaps stealing some things from the good guys and using it to their advantage. It could more of a story to the enemys as well as characters.

I'm sure I didn't want it to go as far as trains.

I don't care. Could be good, could be bad. At the moment I'd probably prefer industrialized settings to the same old same old stuff we've been fed for the past few games, simply because it would introduce something new. That's not because I like industrial any more than traditional, we've just had too much traditional. The setting is mostly irrelevant, though. The gameplay, audio and visual presentation, and scenario are what drive a game. The Legend of Zelda could work be it set in caveman times, medieval times, modern times, or futuristic times, and be equally good in all of them.