My honest thoughts

Originally Posted by Dog Dog 123

If Capn were here, the site wouldn't be overrun with n00bs and newbies and all the oldies wouldn't be leaving. We need someone to keep the new members in place, or at least remind everyone that the forums aren't a chatroom. We made three or four pages in a Dinnie thread in about twenty minutes earlier. The problem is that alot of the newer members don't know what the forums used to be like. They don't realize what makes a topic good or bad. We just need to find one person who can set an example and lead the way back to what ZU used to be like. The member to mod ratio is also way off, which is kinda screwwing up the forums as well.

Originally Posted by Kolulu

What do you mean by " trolling". Capn wasnt trolling ,we was just pwning stupid n00bs who had it coming. He kept the dumasses in line. Now that he's banned we are infested with n00bs. N00bs are taking over ZU!

Originally Posted by Snow_Storm

Capn' Cornflake needs to be unbanned. He just frozed the the fourm morons in compelte feared when he had owned them. He was like a god on this fourm, just ruining the lives of the morons here. The morons here had learned their lesson when Capn Cornflake had owned each and every last one of them. I bet my soul if Capn' Cornflake was unbanned, the morons on this fourm will stop spamming.

Well, anyway, I think what need to be done with the spamming is that the rules need to be more stircker, and that the punishiments should be more harsher then usual. How about a no tollerance rule? Let's say one day, there were just a outburst of spam and spammers. Then, the mod could enforced the no tollerance rule, meaning if you get caught spamming, you're banned permentlly, no warning, or temp bans, your gone for good.

Judging from these posts above, I would have to say that many people want Capn Cornflake off and I'm rather apalled to think I'm one of the few who don't. I really don't know when the people will finally see it crystalline clear, that Capn got what he deserved. And this really leads us to another problem. All these elitist veterans and oldbies who think they can be excluded from the law because of their prestige out here. I don't think that should fly at all. They claim to be fighting the corruption of the igorant new members who flock to this board, but at the very same time, they are corrupting the law that was clearly set in place to defend against such. In the end, I find them to be a contradiction of sorts. And they acomplish virutally zero. As somebody once said, I'd much rather see a banned oldbie who trolled in place of a new member. Capn Cornflake was a funny guy who used humour, but this in no way makes me us overlook the fact that his actions mounted to nothing but a double negative from the way I see it.

Lesson? If you are willing to sarcrifice order and fairness for it, go ahead. Yes, I have a sense of humour. I found him quite funny, but I also have a sense of justice. And letting him back is going to do nothing. I applaud the people who made his banning a reality, because I know they had to face the fact he was beloved and respected in the community. Justice, yes, has special circumstances that need to be clarified and mended because of such but time and time again, Capn deliberately harassed and trolled members because he felt ignorance was at hand. I honestly don't see much how vexing the ignorant can get done. On one hand, it could very well lead to more disruption and spam when this incites the peeved member, who retorts to what he or she sees best. Is that what we want? And again, I don't know what sparks a veteran to think that tenure allows him and her to exclude themselves from the law. Spamming is already wrong as it is, contributing to it is even worse. I know we are tempted to battle some trolling, but again, what can we do? What they do is equal to the concept of vigilantism and we know that's not always in the best interest of the two parties. Why further disturb the peace that you all seem to love and cherish? And then wrecking it with your own hands. Again, I see the contradictions and hypocrisy unraveling from that. I know that I saw ZU as a good fourm and accordingly, I was expecting a zero tolerance policy towards all with fairness and equality attributed to such. I

f we allowed Capn back, we would only be shooting any civic virtue that all you people seem to adore to hell, to put it crudely. There was no protection against n00bs or misunderstood circumstances, there was only sheer arrogance. I beleive in forgiveness, but Capn did nothing to repent or reform. On the contrary case, he kept on doing what made him so revered and respected. But again, this came at the expense of the domestic order that you all seem to think is supposedly to come of all these antics. I don't see it anywhere. I only see ignorance, to be frank and blunt. And why must we punish the n00bs for this and citing that Zelda Universe has declined in quality fully because of them when these people are the problem. Granted, the n00b problem is certainly outweighing their presence but their motives are just as bad, if not worse from the prespective I see it. Why do you people want to poison something that needs work anymore by introducing something that while seemly beneficial, is only harming it internally? And you people seem to think all of us newbs are mindless people. A fair generalization to take note of, but they are so because they are not facts, so I would advise you cut that kind of crap.

Yes, many of the new people joining the fourms are not seen as very bright, law abiding people but there are anomalies and exceptions that make generalizations a ways off from the word fact. Just a note, because I've seen many people refer to the new population as "screwing up the boards" directly and not just citing the real troublemakers but laying the blame on all of us equally, no matter of circumstances(see the first quote above and although I'm sure the choice of words may be have been directed towards something else, but really-- take note of it). I really tire of you people complaining that Zelda Universe is so far from its glory days, but really, I think the problem is overexaggerated. The Crusade? Fun idea, but it only expanded the opinion that the n00b population was out of control. Far from fact. Could you expect less from a strong and healthy community such as us?

Going back to Capn Cornflake's ban, you people seem to think moaning and *****ing about him is benefiting your cause of bringing him back, but the bottom line is-- there was never much of a cause worth fighting for. Honestly. And those thoughts have been brought to you, courtesy of Frost Guardian's mind. I'm sure many of you will disagree with me and then wonder why a thread was even needed but I felt this needed to get out. Perhaps I take the fourm's situation too much at heart, but I am really tired of all these complaints. I stand by my opinion and I hope some of you will read this. And you go bet that if the Capn was here, there would be more order. But be aware that is only a vision and will certainly be far from being a reality. And on a last note, I have nothing personal against Capn Cornflake. I have only viewed his actions and have deemed them contrary to the law that emodies our fair Zelda Universe.

Alright, that took me twenty minutes to read because it was all just a big block of text. HINT HINT... Page break is your friend.

As for my opinion, I think Capn was awesome. I respected him both as a vet and as a friend, and thought his jursidiction of the n00b problem (even with its few exceptions) was great. Simply put, he knows what he's doing. He is, or was, trying to help ZU become a better place in his own way.

And personally, I think he did a better job of scaring away the crap than any mod did.

Wow, I hope I don't get in trouble for this.

Originally Posted by capncornflake himself

Frost Gaurdian wrote a thread about me? Wow. How flattering. Too bad he's a ******. I couldn't stand him when I wasn't banned. Now that I am, he seems like such a self-righteous prick who thinks he knows everything. Yeah. Get a life and get a job, and maybe something to do. If you insist on making threads, make decent threads. Your sack of fail only ADDS to the problem on ZU. The thread is also going to show up in the chat, and all us #zelda'ers are going to laugh at your ass for failing so bad.

I couldn't honestly give a **** less if I was unbanned or not. Granted, I absolutely LOVE how all my fans here are clamoring for my return. It's nice to know how much everyone loves me here, aside from a few deviants (FG COUGH COUGH) but the fact remains, the forum has turned to ****. Even with such an excellent mod team and a few standout members, the place outright sucks. It's intolerable. Bringing me back would actually make me want to troll again, and I'm trying to stop that because I love all the free time I have now. (In my absence, I am actually getting free games from game publishers for "reviewing purposes" on my site. Total win.)

So, in closing, yeah, I love you all. If you love me in return (which I KNOW you all do) then feel free to drop in the chat.

Originally Posted by Frost Guardian

Going back to Capn Cornflake's ban, you people seem to think moaning and *****ing about him is benefiting your cause of bringing him back

And you seem to think making a thread about it will change that.

1. I don't want Captain Cornflake back. He only made people feel like no one respected them.

2. Veterans should have to abide by these same rules. Awhile ago, a newer member with a small post count posted a 'goodbye' thread. Everyone told him that he wouldn't be missed because he wasn't known. A mod locked it and told him to announce it in the CT. Recently, there have been quite a few vets or mods that have created 'goodbye' threads as well. They are massively popular because of the thread-starter's reputation, and the mods allow them to stay open.

Capn doesn't even want to come back. This is a nonissue.