[Feedback] This site needs a serious change of moderation

Originally Posted by Anime_Queen

That's her way of making sure her tone comes over as soft, even when she's about to uppercut someone :>
in fact, they get uppercutted, but still feel loved, in the process <333



also, to expand on GDwarf's idea - the only good compromise is for people to be able to view their OWN deleted posts. Not otehrs' as well.

Andi's idea is perfect. Just make everyone able to see that the post has been deleted and why.

I agree, andi. I believe in any case, there should always be communication between the mod who deleted the post and the member whose post was deleted; in some situations a post may abide by the rules, but posts can be deleted for other reasons due to unique circumstances. (Also, a mod could tick the wrong box xD)

If these situations arise, I think two mods or more need to come to an agreement; names such as Awkin and SacredSturgeon come to mind when I think of mods that took independant action and were cornered by groups of members rebelling, even if their decision was fine. Of course, when members retaliate, it often does each side more harm than good, so I feel it'd be helpful to have a couple of mods on the case.

EDIT - @ Asia's post below: I agree with you 100%.

If everyone can see the posts, it's like the nasty message has been covered in spoiler tags; mods simply saying "don't respond to this post, it's deleted!"

Posts are deleted for a reason, and it isn't to merely call the post unsatisfactory.

EDITEDIT - Pred: Ahh, I thought the same. I agree completely, then. :D

Originally Posted by Preds

Andi's idea is perfect. Just make everyone able to see that the post has been deleted and why.

Nope it isn;t.
It's very unwise.

reasons:

My reasons for nOT having that is because deletion does more than "tidy up" a thread. If there are real offensive posts, language and imagery, then children on the boards should NOT be able to view them on command. It is the duty of moderators to keep the boards suitable for its main audience.

Also, deletion of posts usually curbs drama when you don't have access to the posts, seeing what the nasty things people hAD said after your last word on the topic, and continuing it all over again.

You need only see yOUR deleted posts, if at all, and the reason.

Asia - People wouldn't be able to see the actual post. Just that it was deleted and why. Or if you don't want that, implement a system PMing the owner of the post that his post was deleted with a reason. Bottom line is - deleting posts without a notice must stop.

ah - sorry, I thought you meant what andi was saying earlier - that people should be able to "view" ALL deleted posts - or at least, have the option of doing that. Which is what I was disagreeing to.

if not - yAY!
we have a fantastic new system!
hopefully!

I would suggest waiting for the webmasters to show up before you celebrate - they're the ones who'll have to set it up.

Tiwoth loves to stamp on our village, doesn't he? :<

that's why I said hopefully :>

EDIT - *lAUghs @ Raunm post* xDDDD

Originally Posted by Anime_Queen

That's her way of making sure her tone comes over as soft, even when she's about to uppercut someone :>
in fact, they get uppercutted, but still feel loved, in the process <333

Heh, and here I was thinking that the :3 was actually sarcastic (when used in her famous uppercut-style ).

Also, I'm going to go ahead and second the suggestions that a lot of people are saying about being able to see that posts have been deleted (but not the content--except maybe your own deleted posts) and that reasons for the deletion should be put on the deleted thread mark, as well as the mod who deleted it.

And I do like the idea of an automated message that shows up in your inbox telling you why the post but do find it rather unnecessary if it turns out to be difficult to implement--the above (shows where deleted post is, reason, and mod who deleted it) should suffice. That way the user can contact the mod directly to inquire further into the deletion.

EDIT!
Also, it will remove that very stupid line of reasoning that so many members have that mods are trying to "cover up" or destroy evidence or something conspiracy theory related or whatsit.

Rew, we were talking about lines beneath the post explaining the deletion, rather like edit messages. We can do it when we delete our own posts, so I'd think that it wouldn't be terribly difficult for mods to have the same thing for our posts? (if they don't already)

Look at the below post. As Site Staff, you can see it, yes? (Although I can't)

Originally Posted by Kitsuné

Rew, we were talking about lines beneath the post explaining the deletion, rather like edit messages. We can do it when we delete our own posts, so I'd think that it wouldn't be terribly difficult for mods to have the same thing for our posts? (if they don't already)

Look at the below post. As Site Staff, you can see it, yes? (Although I can't)

Yeah, that's actually what I was talking about.

(Also, I can only see the lines where posts have been deleted in the clan section for some reason, nowhere else. )

So what's the consensus on making post deletion notifications visible? I like the idea and hope it gets implemented, so that complaint threads like this are less likely to pop up.

Originally Posted by the_Predator

I posted the following image in my reply:

On the specific issue of image-posts, you already know that I consider it spam. (And as we discussed earlier, we differ in opinion on that.) If a rule is created so that it is not permitted, would you stop posting them?

The rule is already there. He just happens to disagree with it.

Wouldn't posting something along the lines of "there is nothing left to say about this thread" be contradicting the fact that there is nothing else to say about it?

If you don't like a thread, just stay out of it, simple as that.

If you hate a certain store, do you go in just to say "this store sucks!" or "this store fails!" Like, just leave it be and a mod will catch it.

This is why we need members to report things, like Twilight Wolf does. Check my visitor messages for a reference. He's maybe reported 40 or so threads to me. Of course it's usually after he does what you do and just goes off on a "this thread is stupid" post, then reports it. But it's still progress.

Thread=tl:dr

BUT
No one is MAKING you click on a thread and read it. if you think a thread has derailed to the point of uselessness, STOP READING/POSTING IN IT!

otherwise you're just being a hypocrite for continuing to post in a "failed" thread.

A.K.A. my last post ;D

I was simply trying to concentrate all of the spammers in one thread so I don't have to hear from them again. the_Predator seems to have made a second one except this one has more complaints/spam about spam.

Originally Posted by the_Predator

[nonsense]

Your posts are unnecessary and add fuel to the fire. You're breaking the rules and just because other people did the same thing doesn't make it okay for you to do so. If you disagree with a moderator's decision, take it up with him or her in private and try to come to an understanding or work things out.

That's about all I have to say here.

im not gonna get involved in this situation,i really dont care,we have good moderators,like dr.fish and aeffles and other people who are moderators.
i disagree with the topic.!this site already has good moderation