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Gerudo Thief
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
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I would agree with you that the final confrontation and the weird haven where the kids run around isn’t “real.” But you would have to reiterate the old Matrix question: how do you define real? While the Majora confrontation might entirely be a battle of psyche between Link and Majora with no physical substance or setting, that does not necessarily mean the event is nonexistent. The result might be explained by calling the event an alternate reality, while not quite a dream, and certainly not a digitalized construct for the brain(like the Matrix), it’s crafted by a more mysterious magic of Majora, which makes such an alternate reality possible. This is similar to how Termina and MM in general take place in an alternate dimension of Hyrule, seemingly a parallel universe. But the concept is taken to the third power. I also don’t agree with your concluded origin of Majora. While it might explain the earliest signs of the initial evil, it still doesn’t explain how a mere kid could be capable of such powerful evil, or how that anger could be manifested and magnified into a mask. We know that in order for the essence of a mask to be created, its host being must be dead first. But the Fierce Diety Mask and Majora’s Mask ‘s host origins are unknown, and your theory would be suggesting the kid was the first Majora, and after his death, his depressive qualities were instilled in his own mask. If this mask/host connection remains constant with Majora’s Mask, then the Happy Mask Salesman is most definitely not the source of Majora. I think the playing children are not to be taken literally into the origins of Majora. They could simply be reflections of inner emotions revealed in the skull kid, or even Link. The skull kid seems more likely, as his inner friendship-inhibition worries are constantly revealed throughout the game. It is reflected in the grim interpretations of play that Majora projects into the final confrontation. Oni does not only mean demon in Japanese culture, but also the source of childhood tease, (in games similary to “tag”, Oni refers to the kid who is “it”). I do think there are deeper interpretations of this dark childhood nostalgia reflected in the final confrontation that serves as deeper source of symbolism than source of Majora’s origin. Also the offical manga has touched on the origins of Majora and the carving of the mask a bit. If the creators seek to pursue Majora and reveal more of its origin in the future, I would bet they would work off this. I remember reading an article some years ago that analyzed the phenomena somewhat differently. While I cannot remember the exact premise or find the article, I remember the analysis of symbolism, and its use in childhood, nostalgia, and good guys vs. bad guys. It analyzed the in game quotes in depth, and that’s something that your article is missing. It would be nice to have the game quotes stated and analyzed one right after another, to better prove the theory. I’d like to see some more in-depth analysis of the kids, with many different interpretations. Perhaps there is deep symbolism behind the kids, contrast and similarities between the four boss kids and the majora kid, an analysis of the hide-and-seek games versus good guys versus bad guys/cops and robbers, the quotes, or the four hiding and seemingly bad while Majora is the “good guy” and seeks. This is a well-founded article overall though, but I look forward to a more in-depth, thought-out, and researched revision sometime in the future. Good job.
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The Iron Fist of ZU
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Thank you for the explanation, I will make sure to find some quotes and work them over. Although I'm currently busy with rewriting the section on the main page (So busy that I'm not sure if I'll manage to keep up :S). Anyway, here are a few starting comments:
For your first statement, that Majora didn't wanted to play with them, it is possible of course but as both you and me lack evidence for either of them, none can be said for sure. But as far as I know, if I was a small kid who is being a jerk and doesn't want to play with the others I wouldn't just sit there watching them play... This is stretching it a bit though... About the nonexistent thing... If I ever said that the event is nonexistent then I apologize as it was probably wrong terminology. What I meat is basically that it isn't happening in the "real" dimension and in whatever dimension it happens, Majora has full control of that dimension and some other entities closely related to Majora and the mask _MIGHT_ be able to have some sort of effect on that dimension. Also, thank you for pointing out that the original medium of a mask has to be dead for the mask to exist, that is certainly true, at least for a transformation mask. But if I follow my theory, take the masks of the bosses. I believe that they are transformation masks too, but just that the giants were forced to wear them and / or were sealed with them. This is also a theory, but the fact that you can go and repeat the boss fight whenever you want more or less supports that theory. I also believe that the rooms in which you fight the bosses are happening in the same, or similar dimension to the one "in" the moon, thus Majora could have created the boss masks just like he created the FD mask, but because of his grudge for the children that rejected him or Skull Kid's grudge against the giants he used the masks that the kids used back then. As I said, persons closely related to Majora and the mask might have some influence in those dimensions thus Skull Kid might have got a fragment of Majora's memory and simply puted 2 and 2 together and combined his own personal grudge to the giants with the Masks hatred towards those kids. Your statement that a kid couldn't be a source of all that evil gave me another idea. It sure is true that a mere kid couldn't possibly do that. There are 2 possible patterns here now: 1. The Happy Mask Salesman isn't a normal human being. Perhaps he didn't knew it back then but he had some extent of supernatural power. 2. The mask got it's "initial evil" and after being found by the Dark Tribe, which were surely able to sense that the mask had some extent of power in it, experimented with it and developed it's potential. After all, we don't know if the mask had the powers it has in the game immediately after being found by the dark tribe. The Oni meaning tag statement is also true, but when gathering information for the theory and coming across that I concluded that it would be and overlapping evidence to what I wrote because it matches perfectly. As for the part that the children have something to do with Link or the Skull kid, although I do believe so to some extent, I don't think Skull Kid had any direct influence as the mask was detached from it and it had no direct contact with the mask at the time when the events happened. There might still be some "traces" though. I will come with the quotes of the children on the moon and some more quotes next time to back everything up. I need to finish my exams and the front page article first. :S |
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