Music Chit-Chat Thread Track 01: Ever had sex with a Pharaoh?

this isn't really cabaret music, but it's french so maybe that kinda counts...

you should like this first one Discussion.

Originally Posted by nolan

I adore The Beatles, but neither of those albums are anywhere near my favourites. The White Album is a prime example of a having double-album syndrome, and while Sgt. Pepper's is innovative in a lot of ways, I don't love that many of the songs on it.

What exactly is double album syndrome, exactly? I only own two or three of them and they're kind of similar in the sense that they're full of fantastic, mind-blowing tracks and an equal measure of filler-y tracks. However, I find this to be true of most albums from any artist, including EPs and singles, not just doubles.

I agree on the sargeant pepper's though. Kind of meh, even though it has a fantastic introductory track, and a fantastic finale.

Yyyyyyyeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh...not a Beatles fan. Massively overrated in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Andy

What exactly is double album syndrome, exactly? I only own two or three of them and they're kind of similar in the sense that they're full of fantastic, mind-blowing tracks and an equal measure of filler-y tracks. However, I find this to be true of most albums from any artist, including EPs and singles, not just doubles.

I agree on the sargeant pepper's though. Kind of meh, even though it has a fantastic introductory track, and a fantastic finale.

Double Album Syndrome is a term a friend of mine and I coined because pretty much every double album we have both heard is basically the same story. If it was just one album of the best tracks off of both records, then it would be a fantastic record, but because there so much mediocrity (or flat out badness) spread in between so that it would be a fancy-shmancy double record, the whole 'album' suffers, even though there is usually one album's worth of great songs on them.

So I let out a groan every time I find out a band I like it releasing a double album, because every single time it's the same thing.

No one probably cares, but epiphone just made an amazing new thunderbird model that is AMAZING! Sounds as good as the more expensive gibson but at a third of the price!

also, does anyone here have knowledge about ukuleles? I'm interested in buying one, any information regarding them would be appreciated

Originally Posted by nolan

Double Album Syndrome is a term a friend of mine and I coined because pretty much every double album we have both heard is basically the same story. If it was just one album of the best tracks off of both records, then it would be a fantastic record, but because there so much mediocrity (or flat out badness) spread in between so that it would be a fancy-shmancy double record, the whole 'album' suffers, even though there is usually one album's worth of great songs on them.

So I let out a groan every time I find out a band I like it releasing a double album, because every single time it's the same thing.

Eh, I get more music when they "cram" the so-called "mediocrity" and "badness" into the album, so I don't care either way.

Originally Posted by Forte

Yyyyyyyeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh...not a Beatles fan. Massively overrated in my opinion.

That is because you suck, my friend.

Originally Posted by zeldask8r

also, does anyone here have knowledge about ukuleles? I'm interested in buying one, any information regarding them would be appreciated

Other than the fact that they are really fun and relatively easy to play, I can't help you. The uke I have is almost as old as I am, and actually got broken while I was away at school, which I am not happy about.

Originally Posted by Andy

Eh, I get more music when they "cram" the so-called "mediocrity" and "badness" into the album, so I don't care either way.

I'd rather have the band just release two albums of excellent material separately than put out a double album of only half is the same quality. I guess it all comes down to quality vs quantity, and what individuals would rather have.

Originally Posted by Devia Erasmus

I adore Iron & Wine....
Their cover of such great heights is the only good one by the way.

I heard ben folds cover and I about vomited. (I'm a fan of his too, btw.)

Amanda Palmer I thought would be a decent cover. I was desperately wrong.

There were like six other covers of that song I was going to listen to, but my ears just couldn't take it anymore.

I adore Iron and Wine as well I am a sucker for that kind of music.
And I agree. Their cover of "Such Great Heights" is my favorite of the song I've heard so far.

Originally Posted by nolan

I adore The Beatles, but neither of those albums are anywhere near my favourites. The White Album is a prime example of a having double-album syndrome, and while Sgt. Pepper's is innovative in a lot of ways, I don't love that many of the songs on it.

I agree. Out of all their albums, although these two are good, I would say that they are far from the best. I own all of The Beatles' records, so I've heard each about a million times. But I think I would have a difficult time putting them in order from best to worst.

Well double albums give us quality and quantity. If they omitted the more mediocre tracks then we get less no matter how you look at it.

I find that a band's idea of how good their music is tends to be jaded. They often withhold a LOT of songs, songs which never really get released because they find them not to be of high enough quality. Here's a short list of fantastic songs that never got released for one reason or another:

Handball - Billy Joel, 1976
Highway 21- Foxboro Hot Tubs, 2008
Hey Hey What Can I Do - Led Zeppelin, 1970

There's a lot more, but those are the only I can think of on the top of my head. Led Zeppelin were always great at releasing all their songs. They managed to fit them in albums when they realized they had empty slots and so on and so forth.

Originally Posted by Andy

Hey Hey What Can I Do - Led Zeppelin, 1970

Nope. It was released as a B-side to Immigrant Song and on Coda.

Originally Posted by Andy

That is because you suck, my friend.

No it's because I don't like their sound and the lyrics of theirs that I have read were nothing revolutionary or amazing, as people say it is. When lyrics aren't good, I look to sound. And I don't like their sound. I'd rather listen to their bestest music buddy, Robert Allen Zimmerman.

Originally Posted by Hot Dog

Nope. It was released as a B-side to Immigrant Song and on Coda.

Ohshi, it was on coda? I did not know that. As far as I know it was never released. :/ Are you sure it was on the original coda?

And singles aren't ♥♥♥♥ing real, michael, ♥♥♥♥ them. You don't buy ♥♥♥♥ing singles.

Originally Posted by Forte

No it's because I don't like their sound and the lyrics of theirs that I have read were nothing revolutionary or amazing, as people say it is. When lyrics aren't good, I look to sound. And I don't like their sound. I'd rather listen to their bestest music buddy, Robert Allen Zimmerman.

The Beatles are better than Dylan both lyrically and musically.

Originally Posted by Andy

The Beatles are better than Dylan both lyrically and musically.

hahahahahahaaaaaaa.....heheheheee. Oh man.

Originally Posted by ValaVarda

I agree. Out of all their albums, although these two are good, I would say that they are far from the best. I own all of The Beatles' records, so I've heard each about a million times. But I think I would have a difficult time putting them in order from best to worst.

When asked what his favourite Beatles record is, my brother always responds with "Whichever one I listened to last." I have stolen that answer from him.

Originally Posted by Andy

Well double albums give us quality and quantity. If they omitted the more mediocre tracks then we get less no matter how you look at it.

In terms of songs, yeah we get more which is always great. But the album suffers. It's a lot easier for me to listen to a regular album than a double album because of the syndrome.

I find that a band's idea of how good their music is tends to be jaded. They often withhold a LOT of songs, songs which never really get released because they find them not to be of high enough quality. Here's a short list of fantastic songs that never got released for one reason or another:

These days unreleased songs are few and far between. Almost every track that gets recorded gets released at one time or another, because of bonus tracks for different regions in the world, different retail-exclusive bonus tracks, EPs, etc etc etc.

Originally Posted by nolan

When asked what his favourite Beatles record is, my brother always responds with "Whichever one I listened to last." I have stolen that answer from him.

Unless it was The White Album or Sgt. Pepper's, right?

Nah, but that is a good answer. I may just steal that one from your brother too

Speaking of unreleased tracks; my favorite rapper, Lupe Fiasco, has MANY unreleased tracks. He only has 2 albums, with a third coming this December. But I, personally, own 16 mixtapes that contain tracks that aren't on his albums since he got signed. The ones that most people here. Most people aren't big enough fans to acquire 16 mixtapes, like me. And they contain some fantastic songs.

Originally Posted by Forte

Speaking of unreleased tracks; my favorite rapper, Lupe Fiasco, has MANY unreleased tracks. He only has 2 albums, with a third coming this December. But I, personally, own 16 mixtapes that contain tracks that aren't on his albums since he got signed. The ones that most people here. Most people aren't big enough fans to acquire 16 mixtapes, like me. And they contain some fantastic songs.

If they are on mixtapes, then they've been released. Obviously. If they weren't, then how would anyone have them?

Originally Posted by nolan

If they are on mixtapes, then they've been released. Obviously. If they weren't, then how would anyone have them?

They're not mixtapes, per se. That's what wikipedia called them so that's what I call them. They're released, I suppose, but not officially. Unless you've heard Happy Industries or Heat Under the Babyseat on anything other than his mixtape Fahrenheit 1/15 Part III: A Rhyming Ape, which, again, wasn't released officially. If it was, I'm sure he'da been sued, considering the whole thing is him rapping over Gorillaz beats and songs.

EDIT: He's not making any profit off of them either, quite obviously.

Originally Posted by Forte

They're not mixtapes, per se. That's what wikipedia called them so that's what I call them. They're released, I suppose, but not officially. Unless you've heard Happy Industries or Heat Under the Babyseat on anything other than his mixtape Fahrenheit 1/15 Part III: A Rhyming Ape, which, again, wasn't released officially. If it was, I'm sure he'da been sued, considering the whole thing is him rapping over Gorillaz beats and songs.

EDIT: He's not making any profit off of them either, quite obviously.

Well, yes mixtapes aren't generally "official" releases, but they are still released. Unreleased in the context that was being used earlier was meant to mean 'never released in any capacity, and thus never heard outside of live performance or just being talked about.'

Originally Posted by nolan

Well, yes mixtapes aren't generally "official" releases, but they are still released. Unreleased in the context that was being used earlier was meant to mean 'never released in any capacity, and thus never heard outside of live performance or just being talked about.'

So what about leaked tracks? I would never consider a leaked track released but, by that definition, they've been released.