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possibly, but I still think this is untrue. If you remember, The people on the black rock also died of some sort of sickness, likely also the nuclear radiation.
When it comes to the Black Rock, I think the people died from another cause. Why? Because it left port from Portsmouth, England in 1845! And seeing how delapidated the ship looks, I think it is 150+ years old, not 50+. The only way you could add the Black Rock into your nuclear radiation theory is if the island has time-jumped in the past, picked up the Black Rock (and now the crew/slaves of the BR can also go through time), time jump to the 1950's when the bomb explodes (but the main characters will be safe in a hatch), time jump in the past to have the crew/slaves die of radiation so they could be burried.

But outside of your nuclear radiation theory, my guess is they died of Malaria, Yellow Fever, or something that's more common during that time period.

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the compass has some special meaning to him, and he is apparently can't age.
It didn't really have any special meeting to him exactly, it had a special meeting in the essence of Time, because Time says that Locke was given the compass to give it back to Alpert in the past. So if Alpert never gave Locke the compass in the present (to give it to him in the past) Alpert and Ben would never think that Locke was special when he came onto the island (because a few tests are brought forth to determine who's going to be the leader, and picking the right item - sorta like the Dali Lama test - will tell them who he'll become.

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I hope they are somehow important later in some way. Right now they feel like they were somehow important but were forgotten.
[SPOILER]You're right, they are forgotten, but worst case scenario, the Others have brainwashed them, and then left them at an adoption agency back in the U.S. or something. What can I say? The only person alive from the tail-section of the plane is Bernard, and he's just a supporting character.

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Exactly. Every character I see, I wonder if they too have some greater purpose on the island and that the Island has somehow arranged for them to land on the island.
Maybe the island not only drew them to it to save others, but to also save themselves. Kate wouldn't be running away or locked in prison (and neither would Sawyer, because I wouldn't be surprised if a few cops are looking out for him). Locke isn't handicapped, and Rose isn't feeling ill from Cancer. So whatever life you had off the island, you get a second chance to on it so it seems.

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Did we ever figure out how Locke's dad got to the island? Wouldnt surprise me if one of them stumbles upon a box, mysteriously filled with an item they need.
When it comes to Locke's father, I think some Others just went back to the U.S., kidnapped him, and brought him back to the island. Simple as that.


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I think the Smoke Monster is apart or 'works' for Jacob in some way. Ben was able to summon it with no explination on how. It could have been a defense Jacob gave the leader of the Others as a last defense kind of thing. But this is purely speculation.
Remember that "ultrasonic fence" that's spread throughout the island? Ok, sure it is used to kill any trespassers (or escapees), but it is also used to keep the Smoke Monster out of their civilized sections. My guess is, Ben simply turned off the whole fence and turned on some sort of homing beakon (to summon him).

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So it isnt exactly confirmed. But the way Echo died, seemed to be similar to how the Smoke Monster kills. If it wasnt the Smoke Monster, then that means there is another creature roaming the Island. Then again, it wouldnt surprise me.
The Monster - Lostpedia No there isn't another monster. It seems like it does take shape ( I just forgot), and after looking through the lostpedia website, it seems to confirm what everybody else has been saying. By now, I wouldn't be surprised if Jacob IS the Smoke Monster.

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A lost movie would be awesome. Its kinda sad that such a series is going to end. The last episode better be epic. Knowing Lost, I am sure it will. I just hope it doesnt end with a huge cliffhanger. I always find it annoying when a series ends with a cliffhanger. But I can only think of 2 examples at the moment The 4400 and X-files.

I think having all the loose ends in Lost tied up would feel almost unnatural.
You're right, that would be unnatural (because then there really wouldn't be any room to write books or people writing more fan-fiction. But if a movie is involed, I hope there is a big cliffhanger so we'll know the answer to it when the movie comes out.

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it left port from Portsmouth, England in 1845!
I'm pretty sure that's impossible, because if memory serves, daniel was aboard that ship, and I'm pretty sure she isn't 150 years old!
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I think your talking about a different boat. The Black Rock is some mysterious slave boat found somewhere on the island(how it got there no1 knows) Danielle's boat was a ship coming from some scientific expidition when they came across a signal, and followed it. She has been on the island roughly 16 to 17 years.

Two different boats.
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I'm just hoping we get to see Danielle's back story. I really wanna know what happened with "the sickness".
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I'm just hoping we get to see Danielle's back story. I really wanna know what happened with "the sickness".
If we do, then it would make sense (chronologically) that she meets someone that haven't been introduced to her in the present (well, from the time Sayid met her to the time she died). According to lostpedia.org, the only main character she hasn't met (whom is still alive) is Faraday.

The strange part I find about all of it is, Sayid asked Danielle if she has ever met anybody on the island since she's been here, and she says no (but she does hear voices and she has seen the monster before...but she calls it the "security system"?). If she was willing to kill her other teamates and her lover (which makes it killing 5 people), then she either went slightly insane, or the illness came from the Others (as Danielle claims it came from them). Right now, the only illness that could make sense is the same illness Charlotte/Faraday have. What caused the illness? Well Danielle did say that before they got shipwrecked, their ship's instruments malfunctioned and a storm with strange sounds occured...that sorta sounds like a discription of maybe another hatch explosion.


I just thought of another plot-twist that is possible of happening: Time jumps happen to individuals (but that may be too confusing).

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Charlotte may have to find her constant, brotha!
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I think having all the loose ends in Lost tied up would feel almost unnatural.
The writers have promised several times that everything will be explained

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I'm just hoping we get to see Danielle's back story. I really wanna know what happened with "the sickness".
It looks like we're gonna get your wish

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Charlotte may have to find her constant, brotha!
Her mind isnt jumping though, as far as we know its only happened to Daniel and Desmond

I would like to know how Jin survived the explosion also it seems like both Miles and Charlotte could have been born on the Island, that condition(which I think is the sickness) is happening due to some kind of exposure, unless Daniel is lying

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The writers have promised several times that everything will be explained
Oh really? Hmm doesnt surprise me though. But doesnt mean it wont feel weird having everything explained. I mean Lost just loves dangling mysterys in front of us and turning everything upside down. I mean Ben being a good guy? Though I use the term loosely...



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Its about time we learn more about it. At first I got my hopes up, then I saw that they found Jin, and was all 'aww it can't be them' then I saw the unknown female and then I was happy again.

Speaking of Jin, how did he survive? That and how is he still near the island? I thought the boat was to far off shore for any survivors. Not that I am complaining, I like Jin.


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Her mind isnt jumping though, as far as we know its only happened to Daniel and Desmond
It also happened to the other man on the frieghter. But he was minor and only surved the purpose of showing what Desmond would end up like.

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I would like to know how Jin survived the explosion also it seems like both Miles and Charlotte could have been born on the Island, that condition(which I think is the sickness) is happening due to some kind of exposure, unless Daniel is lying

How Jin survived is really odd. I thought he was to far from the island for the warp to affect him. Then again, Jin is someone the Island wants. Michael proved that if the Island needs you, you can't die.

I do not think its the sickness. Daniel tried to explain it as severe jet lag. I think basicly, their minds are having trouble keeping up with the random time shifts.

Actually, I have no idea what I am talking about. but I dont think its the sickness. But I suppose we will know soon enough. That is if we stay long enough in the time period Danielle's companions get ill.
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I was thinking the same thing about Jin, that the Island wants him alive, well at least we'll get more answers about the sickness if this flash lasts long enough like you said
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It also happened to the other man on the frieghter. But he was minor and only surved the purpose of showing what Desmond would end up like.
It's happening to Juliet as well, so my guess is it'll happen to everyone if they don't stop this time jumping

Also, did anybody catch on to that Ajira waterbottle? If so...you should see this:
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Her mind isnt jumping though, as far as we know its only happened to Daniel and Desmond
Of course her mind is jumping. Just because we didn't get to see where/when her mind jumped to, it doesn't mean that she hasn't jumped. She's falling right into the symptoms of someone who is in the middle of being jumped.
Stage 1: Nose Bleeding
Stage 2: Memory Loss (like forgetting your mother's maiden name, or even something as recent as forgetting the face value of three playing cards).
Stage 3: Dizzyness & Double Vision
Stage 4: is something that resembles a Brain Aneurysm (this is when the brain jumps)
Stage 5: (if the person hasn't found a constant in whatever time period he/she has gone through) is Death, possibly due to all the stress the brain is suffering from.

[URL=http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Theresa_Spencer]Theresa Spencer[/URL] has been presumed to be Faraday's first human experiment on time jumping (maybe his girlfriend or student at the time). My guess is, since she's still alive after all of this time (since at least 1996) her sister might have been her constant. As for why is she in a paralyzed state is probably because she has suffered too many brain aneurysms that she was close to, if not towards the brink of death if she had jumped 1-2 more times without a constant.

[URL=http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/George_Minkowski]George Minkowski] had too many brain jumps without a constant, so he died.

Desmond's constant was Penny

Faraday's constant was Desmond

And now it seems that Charlotte has reached Stage 4, while Miles & Juliet have reached Stage 1.

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I would like to know how Jin survived the explosion also it seems like both Miles and Charlotte could have been born on the Island, that condition(which I think is the sickness) is happening due to some kind of exposure, unless Daniel is lying

No, I don't think he's lying...I wouldn't be surprised if he has some ideas (like getting the most exposure from the island), but he hasn't made a solid conclusion. If Miles and Charlotte were originally born on the island, that would explain why they're getting the first stages of the symptoms now (now that they're back on the island). Desmond got a full force of the radiation when the hatch exploded, Minkowski got radiation by attempting to get on the island, and Faraday & Theresa got the radiation from the experiments.

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Oh really? Hmm doesnt surprise me though. But doesnt mean it wont feel weird having everything explained. I mean Lost just loves dangling mysterys in front of us and turning everything upside down. I mean Ben being a good guy? Though I use the term loosely...
Well I wouldn't say that they are going to give us all the answers in one episode. We have a little more than 1.5 seasons to go, and from the way things are speeding up (well, faster than usual) it looks like we may get our answers at a nice pace.

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Its about time we learn more about it. At first I got my hopes up, then I saw that they found Jin, and was all 'aww it can't be them' then I saw the unknown female and then I was happy again.
Oh come on, I knew the moment Locke says "Does anybody here know how to read french?". Whom else is the LOST universe knows French but Rousseau? I sorta wished they had used the same actress. Sure she came on the island about 16 years ago, but they could have made her look younger through make-up right? Well now we'll know how she lost her child to Ben...

And wasn't it great that out of all of the characters, she met Jin? Well not trying to be hard on the guy, but considering he doesn't know much english, he can't give away too much information about where/when he came from. Although, if the French crew and Locke's troop join up (and Jin is reunited) then it wouldn't matter if the French woman met Locke years earlier because she's dead now, and can't regain any new memory (like Desmond has when meeting Faraday).

Well this is what we know about the 6 french people (from what Rousseau has told us in the past). The only female is Rousseau (of course) and she is 7 months pregnant with Alex. She has her lover Robert with her. 6 weeks living on the island, Montand (the leader) looses his arm near the Black Rock (so now she's going to be 8 1/2 weeks pregnant), and Brennan (a man that will be framed for the murder of the other scientists, by Rousseau, as she so well put it on the Radio Tower). So we have 2 un-named characters (unless anybody picked them up last night...I don't know French). Some of the team members searched the island to find out what the numbers meant while they waited for rescue. She killed her lover Robert, claiming that he was sick, then killed the rest of the men. She goes up to the radio tower, changes the outgoing signal saying that Brennan killed the rest of them, is still alive, and has some keys.

So who knows, Brennan could very well be living in the present.

After that, she saw black smoke in the sky, a week later gave birth to Alex, and presumed that the Others took her child...


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How Jin survived is really odd. I thought he was to far from the island for the warp to affect him. Then again, Jin is someone the Island wants. Michael proved that if the Island needs you, you can't die.
I agree. Heck, with the preview of next week's lost showing Sun pointing a gun at Ben, maybe Ben can't die either... (or maybe he can considering the island wanted him to leave...)

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Also, did anybody catch on to that Ajira waterbottle? If so...you should see this:
[url=http://www.ajiraairways.com/]Ajira Airways: Destination Destiny[/url]
Yeah, I wonder how they are involved...I mean, the most famous airways is Oceanic, so why involve yet another Airway company in all of this?

Phewww! ok, Now for something I want to talk about: [URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDyPtHga_rc]Next week's promo[/URL] shows Locke going down a well...could that be the Orchid Station before an elevator was built in?

Now unless Ben is bluffing, how can he prove that Jin is still alive? This might get everybody's answers on how could he have survived such a big explosion.


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No, I don't think he's lying...I wouldn't be surprised if he has some ideas (like getting the most exposure from the island), but he hasn't made a solid conclusion. If Miles and Charlotte were originally born on the island, that would explain why they're getting the first stages of the symptoms now (now that they're back on the island). Desmond got a full force of the radiation when the hatch exploded, Minkowski got radiation by attempting to get on the island, and Faraday & Theresa got the radiation from the experiments.
What about Juliet?


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Well I wouldn't say that they are going to give us all the answers in one episode. We have a little more than 1.5 seasons to go, and from the way things are speeding up (well, faster than usual) it looks like we may get our answers at a nice pace.
No I guess not. But we seem to be only getting more questions. Such has how Jin survived, whose boats were those, what happened to the camp.


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Oh come on, I knew the moment Locke says "Does anybody here know how to read french?". Whom else is the LOST universe knows French but Rousseau? I sorta wished they had used the same actress. Sure she came on the island about 16 years ago, but they could have made her look younger through make-up right? Well now we'll know how she lost her child to Ben...
Well Boone's sister(her name escapes me atm) but yeah. I was kind of disapointed they didnt use the same actress. Not that I am surprised and it does make sense. Oh well.

I think she lost Alex the same way the tail section lost the children. But I suppose it is different, I mean why did Ben take an interest in her?


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And wasn't it great that out of all of the characters, she met Jin? Well not trying to be hard on the guy, but considering he doesn't know much english, he can't give away too much information about where/when he came from. Although, if the French crew and Locke's troop join up (and Jin is reunited) then it wouldn't matter if the French woman met Locke years earlier because she's dead now, and can't regain any new memory (like Desmond has when meeting Faraday).
Not that they would believe him anyways. I feel sorry for Jin, no matter where he goes, language is always a barrier. I know they can speak english, but he still is left out.

I do hope they are reunited. I always found the relationship between Jin, Michael and Sawyer interesting. It was also fun watching Michael and Jin trying to build the raft.



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I agree. Heck, with the preview of next week's lost showing Sun pointing a gun at Ben, maybe Ben can't die either... (or maybe he can considering the island wanted him to leave...)
You never know, the island works in mysterious ways. Though how Jin plans to prove Jin is alive will be interesting.

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Yeah, I wonder how they are involved...I mean, the most famous airways is Oceanic, so why involve yet another Airway company in all of this?
Yeah it does seem odd to include yet another airway. Maye another plane crashed?

speaking of survivors, has it been confirmed that the others died? If not, where did they go?


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Only place that would fit.
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the Others went to the Temple, remember? I'm assuming it's another DI station.

I'm just wondering what Locke's gonna do once he's at the Orchid.

And some foreshadowing: remember when Locke was talking to Sawyer and he said, "I've got to get them back, even if it kills me"

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the Others went to the Temple, remember? I'm assuming it's another DI station.

I'm just wondering what Locke's gonna do once he's at the Orchid.

And some foreshadowing: remember when Locke was talking to Sawyer and he said, "I've got to get them back, even if it kills me"

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I suppose it could be the temple, but I dont know. As far what he is planning to do in the Orchid, my best bet is he is going to try and move the island again.

We already know John dies. But how he dies is unsure, but we know its not until Locke sees everyone and tries to convince them.

I think if Locke does move the island, I think death is a loophole. We are led to believe that the person who moves the island can never return. But if this is how Locke leaves the island, we know he can return and has to return.

But I guess its a risky loophole because if the Island doesnt want you. Your dead
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What about Juliet?
Well from what we've observed, she's the newest "Other" so her body hasn't adapted to the island's radiation like the other people have (whom are natives of the island). Maybe those injections that Desmond needed to take daily was part of a stable cure, and for all we know, Ben could have been taking injections as well.

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No I guess not. But we seem to be only getting more questions. Such has how Jin survived, whose boats were those, what happened to the camp.
Jin probably survived from being the furthest away from the actual bomb (plus he has survived a plane clash, so clearly the island still wants him alive).

Those boats, clearly belonged to the Others. Why? Remember when Karl (Alex's boyfriend) escaped from the Others to quickly tell the Survivors of the impending attack? Well Karl used one of those boats (if I remember correctly) in order to escape and give the message.

What happened to the camp? Well during the time of Boone's plane crash (and death) everybody moved to the caves, hence the camp was deserted.


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Well Boone's sister(her name escapes me atm) but yeah. I was kind of disapointed they didnt use the same actress. Not that I am surprised and it does make sense. Oh well.

I think she lost Alex the same way the tail section lost the children. But I suppose it is different, I mean why did Ben take an interest in her?
Boone's sister's name is Shannon. Speaking of her, from all the main characters, she's the only one (that I can recall) that hasn't come back in some sort of ghost form or whatever. I mean, Boone came to Locke in a vision. Well of course Michael and Ecko have also died...but the island clearly thought it was their time to go Plus Michael died recently (and was a backstabbing murderer...but to save his son) so he needs more time to ever consider coming back (but I have my doubts).

And as for Ben's interest in her, I wouldn't be surprised if she's the first woman he and the Others have meet in a long time who has been pregnant on the island. Hence Ben wanted to take Aaron away from Claire when she was pregnant. Of course Claire and Rousseau didn't concieve on the island (like Sun did...which makes me question why isn't Ben interested in her baby), but it seems to me that that doesn't matter when it comes to their own purpose.

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Not that they would believe him anyways. I feel sorry for Jin, no matter where he goes, language is always a barrier. I know they can speak english, but he still is left out.
Yeaah...but it's a double-whammy for them both. I think Rousseau is the only one who knows how to speak english, and even then it's still not her native language (but she's pretty fluent, considering the situation she's been in).

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You never know, the island works in mysterious ways. Though how Jin plans to prove Jin is alive will be interesting.
My official guess right now would be satelites taking pictures. If Ben has access to a satelite (a lawyer, and 3.2 million dollars that Miles is interested in), then we know that he's a rich mo-fo.

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I agree. Plus the only ones that have died are the ones that went up against the survivors when Sawyer, Jin, & Bernard shot/exploded them at the beach:P

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And some foreshadowing: remember when Locke was talking to Sawyer and he said, "I've got to get them back, even if it kills me"
I honestly don't think Locke is dead. He just wanted to appear dead to them. I mean, anybody can act dead for a few seconds, and Jack was the only one to "confirm" that Locke was dead in the first place. Another reason why I'm speculating this is because the way Ben was trying to hide Locke's body with that woman...

I have 2 questions for Locke: When/Why did he visit Walt? How did the rest of the Survivors know about his name change aswell? Because when Walt was talking to Hurley, they both knew who they were talking about. And when Jack showed the obituary(sp?) article to Kate, she also knew who he was talking about (I'm assuming there wasn't a picture on the obituary article on him). It seems to me that Locke came off the island, took under a new name (for safety reasons I suppose), did some Island buisiness (like convincing people to come back), then died because I can't think of any other explanation (either he died, or staged his own death).


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I suppose it could be the temple, but I dont know. As far what he is planning to do in the Orchid, my best bet is he is going to try and move the island again.
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I think if Locke does move the island, I think death is a loophole. We are led to believe that the person who moves the island can never return. But if this is how Locke leaves the island, we know he can return and has to return.
So you think you have to die in order to return to the island? I'm just trying to make it clear. Plus, I have two little theories when it comes to Locke...
1. He gets off the island (maybe even a few years before Oceanic 815 even took flight) and hides out in the U.S. under a new name until knows it's the best time to try an recruit the Oceanic 6 (O6).
2. He figures out how to make the island stable again, and gets off the island...

I'm leaning more on #1, considering he can contact the O6 and they'll be questioning if he is on the island or if he is just a "ghost"/"vision" (whatever you want to call it). Plus he has to do all of this within the olloted(sp?) time frame the old woman gave Ben (72 hours?).


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Hence Mr.Ecko and Michael...

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Well from what we've observed, she's the newest "Other" so her body hasn't adapted to the island's radiation like the other people have (whom are natives of the island). Maybe those injections that Desmond needed to take daily was part of a stable cure, and for all we know, Ben could have been taking injections as well.
Maybe


Jin probably survived from being the furthest away from the actual bomb (plus he has survived a plane clash, so clearly the island still wants him alive).

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Those boats, clearly belonged to the Others. Why? Remember when Karl (Alex's boyfriend) escaped from the Others to quickly tell the Survivors of the impending attack? Well Karl used one of those boats (if I remember correctly) in order to escape and give the message.
So what were the Others doing? When we saw the camp, it was practicly destroyed. I doubt the Others would destroy their camp, mostly because of Locke.

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What happened to the camp? Well during the time of Boone's plane crash (and death) everybody moved to the caves, hence the camp was deserted.
That doesnt fit. At the time of Boone's death they hadn't even gotten the Hatch open. let alone have DI Beer. The time period they were in when they were at the Camp was sometime after/around the time the Oceanic Six left. At the time of their arival, we can assume they still had Beer. As Sawyer was upset when the cans were mysteriously empty.

also after we saw Claire give birth, there was another time jump.



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Boone's sister's name is Shannon. Speaking of her, from all the main characters, she's the only one (that I can recall) that hasn't come back in some sort of ghost form or whatever. I mean, Boone came to Locke in a vision. Well of course Michael and Ecko have also died...but the island clearly thought it was their time to go Plus Michael died recently (and was a backstabbing murderer...but to save his son) so he needs more time to ever consider coming back (but I have my doubts).
Thank you. It is kind of odd we haven't seen her yet. But aside from Sayid, she wasn't that close to anyone else. That I can remember. So if she does come back, it will probably be sometime after they return.

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And as for Ben's interest in her, I wouldn't be surprised if she's the first woman he and the Others have meet in a long time who has been pregnant on the island. Hence Ben wanted to take Aaron away from Claire when she was pregnant. Of course Claire and Rousseau didn't concieve on the island (like Sun did...which makes me question why isn't Ben interested in her baby), but it seems to me that that doesn't matter when it comes to their own purpose.
That makes sense. But it still seems odd that he had taken such an interest in Alex. I guess from the other two kids that were kidnapped it just seems odd.


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Yeaah...but it's a double-whammy for them both. I think Rousseau is the only one who knows how to speak english, and even then it's still not her native language (but she's pretty fluent, considering the situation she's been in).

I am pretty sure I heard one of the others speak english.


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My official guess right now would be satelites taking pictures. If Ben has access to a satelite (a lawyer, and 3.2 million dollars that Miles is interested in), then we know that he's a rich mo-fo.
That could work. Though it could only work if he was in the present or know when to look for him. It never ceases to amaze me how well connected Ben and the Others are to the outside world.


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I agree. Plus the only ones that have died are the ones that went up against the survivors when Sawyer, Jin, & Bernard shot/exploded them at the beach:P
My bad, wrong others. Sometimes I forget Others has a completely different meaning. What I meant to ask is, where are the other survivors of 815. Everyone was split up after the flaming arrow attack. They were all supposed to meet at the creek. Since then we have heard nothing from them. I know some of them probably died in the arrow attack, others died while on the way to the creek. But surely, not all of them have died.

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I honestly don't think Locke is dead. He just wanted to appear dead to them. I mean, anybody can act dead for a few seconds, and Jack was the only one to "confirm" that Locke was dead in the first place. Another reason why I'm speculating this is because the way Ben was trying to hide Locke's body with that woman...
Your right, he could be alive. I doubt it really matters whether or not he actualy died. He is probably going to be revived when on the island.

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I have 2 questions for Locke: When/Why did he visit Walt? How did the rest of the Survivors know about his name change aswell? Because when Walt was talking to Hurley, they both knew who they were talking about. And when Jack showed the obituary(sp?) article to Kate, she also knew who he was talking about (I'm assuming there wasn't a picture on the obituary article on him). It seems to me that Locke came off the island, took under a new name (for safety reasons I suppose), did some Island buisiness (like convincing people to come back), then died because I can't think of any other explanation (either he died, or staged his own death).
I think he visited Walt just to talk. While on the Island they grew close. I am sure he wanted to see him. But then, maybe Walt has to come back to the island?

When he left the Island he adopted a new name and probably just told the others to use his name. Its probably for the same reason the Oceanic Six lied. To protect the survivors. Widmore probably has them monitored.

His death was probably the Islands way of speeding things along. They all seemed dead set on never returning. For jack, his death helped push him to making the choice to return. But thats just an idea.






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So you think you have to die in order to return to the island? I'm just trying to make it clear. Plus, I have two little theories when it comes to Locke...
1. He gets off the island (maybe even a few years before Oceanic 815 even took flight) and hides out in the U.S. under a new name until knows it's the best time to try an recruit the Oceanic 6 (O6).
2. He figures out how to make the island stable again, and gets off the island...
Not everyone, just those who move the island. But I doubt this is the case. Mostly because it seems to absurd.

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I'm leaning more on #1, considering he can contact the O6 and they'll be questioning if he is on the island or if he is just a "ghost"/"vision" (whatever you want to call it). Plus he has to do all of this within the olloted(sp?) time frame the old woman gave Ben (72 hours?).
I think he left the island a year or so before his death. Though I am curious about this time limit. What happens if they fail to bring them back?
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So I started watching season 1 again and I got to thinking...have we figured out what Sawyer's reason for being on the island is? Or Kate's?
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I'm convinced that she's
Faraday's mum. or the young woman in the Old Other camp, with young Widmore and Richard. or both!
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There's been a lot of debate about that. One blogger hopes she isn't because it would make the story line too predictable. Another theory is that she and Widmore are the parents of Faraday, making Penny his sister
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So what were the Others doing? When we saw the camp, it was practicly destroyed. I doubt the Others would destroy their camp, mostly because of Locke.
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That doesnt fit. At the time of Boone's death they hadn't even gotten the Hatch open. let alone have DI Beer. The time period they were in when they were at the Camp was sometime after/around the time the Oceanic Six left. At the time of their arival, we can assume they still had Beer. As Sawyer was upset when the cans were mysteriously empty.

also after we saw Claire give birth, there was another time jump.
Ah yes, I forgot there was another time jump...so you suppose they're in the present? Or possibly sometime in the not-so-distant future? Well one thing's for sure, whomever attacked Locke's group on the cannoe, we know that somebody has landed and they're still on the island. Since Locke/Alpert give out orders, it may not be Locke's Others (come on, anybody would be able to identify Locke's bald head from a distance:P, so they're no ally)
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That makes sense. But it still seems odd that he had taken such an interest in Alex. I guess from the other two kids that were kidnapped it just seems odd.
The other two kids? Are you talking about Walt & Aaron, or Emma & Zach? My guess is he took an interest in Alex because they needed to experiment on a baby (hopefully just give it non-deadly vaccinations). They wanted Walt because they knew he was special/had powers (maybe the same way they know that Locke is special in his own way in becoming the future leader). Aaron is special...well that has been undetermined how. Right now he could be just another baby like Alex, however, that Australian psychic that Claire met was very shocked when she met him, so he knows something drastic about the future, that maybe only the Others know about as well. Emma & Zach? They aren't special. If I were Ben, I'd brainwash them (to forget all about the island & the plane crash), give them a new name/identity and send them back to civilization as orphans. But really, theres nothing that can be said what happened to the rest of the Tail-survivors at this moment.

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That could work. Though it could only work if he was in the present or know when to look for him. It never ceases to amaze me how well connected Ben and the Others are to the outside world.
Well we have seen "Mr.Friendly" (forgot his name) go out and have some fun in New York, so I wouldn't be surprised that they have many connections in the outside world. But if not a satelite, then maybe cameras (because we've seen that they have cameras in hatches & near stations, so I wouldn't find it all that farfetched if they had sensors/more cameras near the borders of island.

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My bad, wrong others. Sometimes I forget Others has a completely different meaning. What I meant to ask is, where are the other survivors of 815. Everyone was split up after the flaming arrow attack. They were all supposed to meet at the creek. Since then we have heard nothing from them. I know some of them probably died in the arrow attack, others died while on the way to the creek. But surely, not all of them have died.
I'm sure they are lost and confused at the moment, so they are running around like chickens with their heads chopped off. As far as characters, we have the minor-characters Bernard and Rose with them, so who knows what's happened to them.

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I think he left the island a year or so before his death. Though I am curious about this time limit. What happens if they fail to bring them back?
My guess? While Faraday was on the beach trying to predict when they are and when's the next time-jump going to occur, I believe that the old woman (again, forgot her name) has found the island's location pattern through space and time, and has predicted that in 70 hours it will be in the present day (present day meaning three years into the future) within an olloted(sp?) amount of time at a certain location.

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So I started watching season 1 again and I got to thinking...have we figured out what Sawyer's reason for being on the island is? Or Kate's?
Kate was pursued for three years by the U.S. Marshall and was in his custody when she crashed on the Island (so in short, she was caught in Australia, and was being sent back in handcuffs as a convict in order to get a tried in jury on U.S. soil).

Sawyer (to make a long story short) got in a bar fight with the Australian Minister of Agriculture, got arrested, and was ordered to be deported back to the U.S.

So unless you're actually asking, what's their reason for being on the plane (which lead them to the island), then I think I've answered your questions.


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There's been a lot of debate about that. One blogger hopes she isn't because it would make the story line too predictable. Another theory is that she and Widmore are the parents of Faraday, making Penny his sister
With the series coming close to an end, a little predictability wouldn't hurt

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