Death Magnetic Leaked

Originally Posted by DarKnite92

I hate the fact that its bricked walled, it just makes the songs sound flat. Second, the lyrics are straight retarded. The vocals are also ****, I enjoy the music though, but that's it.

Plus, as Sear mentioned this album took years to make, and there's nothing all that great about it. Which is more of an insult on the band then the album, but still.

All depends on who you ask though.

No, seriously, I think if an album takes that long to make it should have something to it that's never done before, et cetera, something significant about it.

Metallica.com

I get what your saying, and really the only new thing they did for this album was incorperate more instruments, like for unforgiven 3 with the trumpet, violen, and the piano.

No, they used a hurdy gurdy on one of the Load albums and a violin on "Low Man's Lyric"

Originally Posted by DarKnite92

No, they used a hurdy gurdy on one of the Load albums and a violin on "Low Man's Lyric"

a hurdy what?

Originally Posted by sea

St. Anger has terrible production (it sounds like mud with somebody banging a trash can lid in time), zero riffs whatsoever, awful lyrics, no guitar leads, and the songs are all three times as they have content to sustain themselves. It's just plain bad.

I 100% agree with your description and subsequent hatred for St. Anger. However, I disagree when you say that James's vocals are... "incapable". I think that James's voice has gotten incredible over the years, especially after having blown his voice out completely and having to re-train his voice. when you say incapable.. what is he incapable of? If you just don't like that style of vocal for metal music, that's fine. some people prefer their metal vocals more... rough and screamy. whatever. but "incapable" isn't the word I'd choose to describe his voice. anyway, mocing on...

Originally Posted by Tomcat_ha

Then why do they release this while thrash is having a resurgence?

because they are Metallica and they can do whatever the hell they want at their own pace, leisure, and discression...? They're effing rich, man. they make music to make music.

Originally Posted by Koulatio

I found the actual quility of the music recording to be a little distorted. (Obviously i'm not talking about the distortion on the guitar) It cracks a little bit. But that aside, i do love their new album, i love st anger, i love evey album they have done, exept for like, garage inc.

One really horrific trend in the recording business in recent years is to record at a rediculous "loudness level". albums are recorded form the master tapes onto the CD's in a very loud format (as if we didn't have a "VOLUME" knob we could just turn up!?!). It completely effs up the sound quality of an album. a lot of older recording artists are really pissed about it. I wish Metallica would have opted to release this ablum in CODE (DVD) format. it's the closest you can get to original master tape quality. John Mellencamp used it on his new album (yeah, freaking John Mellencamp can do it, but Metallica cant" ) EDIT: well, evidently CODE format was incented by T Bone Burnett and his team of engineers, so the format must be so new it's not very popular yet. give it time, kiddies!

Originally Posted by Bexaholic

I don't listen to Metallica and therefore don't have a real opinion, but what the hell kind of a name for an album is that?

I agree it's kinda silly, but meh.

Originally Posted by Lelouch

My only problems with it are that firstly there seems to be a lot of suicide and death imagery, which has got me thinking one of the band's on his way to committing suicide, and they seem to be focusing on this theme rather than thinking about other issues as with other albums.

LOL, practicaly all of Metallica's songs are about death and suicide. ok not "all" of them, but death and suicide are NOT new themes in Metallica's songwriting by any stretch of the word. Metal in general has a lot of songs about death. That's kinda the point

Originally Posted by Koulatio

a hurdy what?

A hurdy gurdy...

it's the instrument in "Low Man's Lyric" that kinda sounds like an accordion.

Originally Posted by Margar

LOL, practicaly all of Metallica's songs are about death and suicide. ok not "all" of them, but death and suicide are NOT new themes in Metallica's songwriting by any stretch of the word. Metal in general has a lot of songs about death. That's kinda the point

A man who doesn't listen to enough decent metal. (inb4 "hurr no such thing"). It's not new to them, but such songs were here and there, few and far between. Not nearly a whole album.

Originally Posted by Lelouch

A man who doesn't listen to enough decent metal. (inb4 "hurr no such thing").

what do you mean by this non-sentence? are you saying that's what I am, or what you are? or something else? I just don't get what you meant there.

Originally Posted by Margar

what do you mean by this non-sentence? are you saying that's what I am, or what you are? or something else? I just don't get what you meant there.

That should be "woman". I didn't read the name of the poster, so yeah.

Originally Posted by Genesis

The quality is kinda ****, we need someone smarter to rip it.

Its not the rip, I'm afraid. The quality on CD is terrible.

A man who doesn't listen to enough decent metal. (inb4 "hurr no such thing"). It's not new to them, but such songs were here and there, few and far between. Not nearly a whole album.

hurr no such thing

LOL!
this entire album is all metallica. All of their styles and abilities shown off on one album... what trend are they following?!
Metallica helped SET the trends that all the new trendy metal bands are trying to emulate!

Metallica has been ripping off trends since they started ripping off thrashcore bands like D.R.I. and Agnostic Front in the late 80s.

Originally Posted by Margar

I 100% agree with your description and subsequent hatred for St. Anger. However, I disagree when you say that James's vocals are... "incapable". I think that James's voice has gotten incredible over the years, especially after having blown his voice out completely and having to re-train his voice. when you say incapable.. what is he incapable of? If you just don't like that style of vocal for metal music, that's fine. some people prefer their metal vocals more... rough and screamy. whatever. but "incapable" isn't the word I'd choose to describe his voice. anyway, mocing on...

He sounds like a tone-deaf redneck.

Originally Posted by Margar

One really horrific trend in the recording business in recent years is to record at a rediculous "loudness level". albums are recorded form the master tapes onto the CD's in a very loud format (as if we didn't have a "VOLUME" knob we could just turn up!?!). It completely effs up the sound quality of an album.

That's a rather crude description of the phenomenon. Record producers (and often the band) want their albums to be as loud as possible, so when played on radio, television, etc. they drown out other songs and "take over" the air. This is done by hard limiting any spikes (almost always the drums) in the waveform and then increasing the volume as close to the 0 db threshold as possible; often other forms of processing are applied to increase the perceived volume, too, like high passes and exciters. Compression tends to get slathered on to remove overall dynamic range, too. While this doesn't always sound bad (it depends on the sound the band wants, really, and what sort of music they play), it can often remove punch and clarity and drown out subtler elements, like the bass guitar, which is all but inaudible in most modern recordings.

But yes, it's not a simple matter of "cranking the volume, dawg".

Originally Posted by Lelouch

That should be "woman". I didn't read the name of the poster, so yeah.

you say I'm a woman who doesn't listen to enough good metal. That may be, since I'm not really a metal person. I like some metal bands, but they are the more proggy, melodic bands, and I can only stomach it in small doses however, everyone's opinion of what "good metal" is, is different. especially given some of the metal debates I've seen around here

Originally Posted by 8bit

Metallica has been ripping off trends since they started ripping off thrashcore bands like D.R.I. and Agnostic Front in the late 80s.

Don't forget Motorhead Hey, there are TONS of bands who "rip off" other bands. there are levels to the rip-off factor, thogh. as they say "immitation is the highest form of flattery". Everything new is only partially new. There's always going to be flavors of other preceding styles in there. it's called evolution.

Originally Posted by sea

He sounds like a tone-deaf redneck.

I'll give youthat. He IS a redneck. Nascar fanatic, conservative hillbilly. He's appeared on CMT music events, too! O_o

Originally Posted by sea

Record producers (and often the band) want their albums to be as loud as possible, so when played on radio, television, etc. they drown out other songs and "take over" the air. This is done by hard limiting any spikes (almost always the drums) in the waveform and then increasing the volume as close to the 0 db threshold as possible; often other forms of processing are applied to increase the perceived volume, too, like high passes and exciters. Compression tends to get slathered on to remove overall dynamic range, too. While this doesn't always sound bad (it depends on the sound the band wants, really, and what sort of music they play), it can often remove punch and clarity and drown out subtler elements, like the bass guitar, which is all but inaudible in most modern recordings.

But yes, it's not a simple matter of "cranking the volume, dawg".

Hey, man, I'm a DJ I know this I was just explaining it simply, and I was explaining it from a CD standpoint, rather than a broadcast standpoint. Anyway, Radio stations have audio compression to normalize the volume of the songs, so I doubt that it makes a huge difference in the end (of course, despite me bein in radio, I rarely listen to the radio- oversaturation, ya know- so I haven't directly noticed a difference in volume or perceived volume between, say, a Sabbath track and a new Metallica track. who knows. )

No doubt, James is a hardcore red neck,but tone deaf? Really? How? How can the lead singer a of hugely secsessful band, who has a great voice be tone deaf? Not to mension all the guitar solos he creates. Theywould sound horrible if he was tone deaf

Originally Posted by Koulatio

I get what your saying, and really the only new thing they did for this album was incorperate more instruments, like for unforgiven 3 with the trumpet, violen, and the piano.

Listen to the S&M album or listen to the first two Unforgiven songs.

1) The Unforgiven 3
2) The Judas Kiss
3) The End of The Line

Yeah the Unforgiven III is the best song on Death Magnetic, and it tooo me by surpise in an awesome way how its so different then the others, yet the theme is the same.

IMO the Best songs from this album are

1) The Unforgiven III
2) The End of the Line
3) The Day That Never comes
4) The Judas Kiss

Originally Posted by Mike87

Listen to the S&M album or listen to the first two Unforgiven songs.

As far as I know, the orchestra parts from S&M weren't actually written by Metallica, and they're pretty bad as well. "No Leaf Clover" is the only song that comes even remotely close to properly employing it, and even then they could have just used keyboards to similar effect anyways.

Yeah the Unforgiven III is the best song on Death Magnetic, and it tooo me by surpise in an awesome way how its so different then the others, yet the theme is the same.

IMO the Best songs from this album are

1) The Unforgiven III
2) The End of the Line
3) The Day That Never comes
4) The Judas Kiss

Unforgiven 3 is definetly my favourite, and as for the rest, they're all eqaully lliked in second place for me, exept for cyanide and that was just your life. They're good songs, but the only two that i don't listend to 5 times a day. Ok, well i probably dont listen to them five times, but close.
By the was, i started thinking about All Nightmare Long yesterday, and i was really listening to the lyrics, and it sounded perfect for a freddie movie (you know, like nightmare on elm street)

the sound quality is not that great but it sounds really good on a torrent

and i dont know wat the rest of you guys are talking about, this album is awesome

Originally Posted by Fifth Horsemen

the sound quality is not that great but it sounds really good on a torrent

and i dont know wat the rest of you guys are talking about, this album is awesome

it is indeed awesome. by the way, if you get the chance to hook it up to a nice big stereo system, it sounds sooo good. Take the music to a new level