Buffy the Vampire Slayer!!!!

I personally liked this series!!!! I liked the paranormal events and everything attached to it!!!! What do you guys think?!?! Please, converse!!!!

One of my favourite shows to ever be on television. Joss Whedon is my television messiah, and pretty much everything he has done is nothing short of excellent.

I've been rewatching the whole series, along with his two other television shows, Angel (a Buffy spin-off that may have actually surpassed it) and Firefly, for the past few months. I've just about finished the second disc of the sixth season of the show, and just watched the musical episode, which is all kinds of awesome.

But yeah, huge fan. I think the thing I like most about it is how strong all the characters are, and how they evolve throughout the whole series.

Wow I remember Whedon's shows. I use to watch Buffy and Angel, but eventually grew out of them. I was really into them when I was watching them. I actually don't even know why I stopped? I thought the characters and plots were some of the strongest points of the show. I think Joss did a great job with both series.

Originally Posted by Galedeep

One of my favourite shows to ever be on television. Joss Whedon is my television messiah, and pretty much everything he has done is nothing short of excellent.

I've been rewatching the whole series, along with his two other television shows, Angel (a Buffy spin-off that may have actually surpassed it) and Firefly, for the past few months. I've just about finished the second disc of the sixth season of the show, and just watched the musical episode, which is all kinds of awesome.

But yeah, huge fan. I think the thing I like most about it is how strong all the characters are, and how they evolve throughout the whole series.

I agree with you TOTALLY!!!!

EDIT: I can't say I'm a huge fan of Firefly, or Angel for that matter, seeing as I've never watched that spin-off, and I'm not so sure that Whedon is my ONLY television messiah, although certainly one of them!!!! So I can't say I agree with you altogether, but certainly most of what you say!!!!

It's often said that legends never really die, and that they just take on different incarnations over time. To me, it seems entirely plausible that Sarah Michelle Gellar is a modern day Aphrodite, or maybe a living retelling of the Graces who are said to have ridden on carriages pulled by geese. I can see Sarah Michelle Gellar traveling by such regal means.

Unfortunately, like many of the characters who I've alluded to, Sarah Michelle Gellar appears to have abandoned us. Where is she? I turn on my television, and she is nowhere to be seen outside of Buffy reruns. Now please don't misunderstand me, I loved her in Buffy, but I miss looking through the TV guide and looking forward to fresh Sarah Michelle television. Actually there's a question, is her name double barelled like Sarah-Michelle, or is Sarah just her middle name? Could you imagine how embarrassing it would be to address her by the wrong name? She'd probably slap the taste out of your mouth. No I shouldn't say that. She's supposedly very nice.Or perhaps the people who have wronged her are just too scared to speak out. Inquiring minds are ticking over these questions.

I'd like to see Buffy come back, if just to have Sarah back on our TV screens. In a world of Katherine Hiegle and Misha Barton, I long for America's Sweetheart to come back to television. Not everybody is suited to movies, and although Sarah has three timeless classics to her name (Scream 2, Cruel Intentions and Scooby Doo) things seem to be drying up. One minute you're acting next to cutting edge CGI dogs, and the next you're doing voice overs for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Joss Whedon didn't make Buffy. Sarah Michelle Gellar made Buffy. I'll never forget the scene in series five where Giles is telling Buffy how she can't beat Glory, and then Buffy says 'we're not talking about this' and Giles says 'yes we bloody well are.' The next few moments wipe the floor with anything you'd see in Citizen Kane, or other such nonsense.

Buffy throws Giles a look that screams 'do you know how much they're paying me?' and utters the line 'well we're bloody well talking about it!'

The hairs on my neck are standing up thinking about it.

I just started watching this show.

A few weeks ago my brother picked up the boxed set of the Complete Series, so he could watch it (he's a Whedon fan and all.) He and my little sister would watch it a lot, but I wasn't really interested- until one day, they were watching one about halfway into season two, and I happened to be in the room...

I love it. It's camp and ridiculous and so cliche in a way that only Whedon can make fantastic.

Apparently at a recent Cast Reunion, when Joss asked all his cast if they'd be willing to get together to do a Buffy Movie, he was met with a chorus of resounding "YES!" from all but one cast member: Sarah Michelle herself. Figures.

That didn't happen at the recent reunion at all. It was the first question asked, and Joss and Sarah were the only two to really answer. Joss said "Oh, I don't know..." then asked Sarah "Well, you wanna?" Her response was reportedly "Eh, sure, why the hell not?" So it was a nice little ad lib sketch, but there was no definitive "OH GOD YES!" from anyone else, and obviously the pair were just joking around.

Joss himself says he'll never rule out doing a movie, but it isn't something he'll actively persue right now, especially because he has the Season Eight comics to get his Buffy "fix" as he says. He says if all the cast is willing, and available, then maybe one day...but the longer time passes, the less likely it is...because...well, James Marsters and David Boreanaz have that pesky aging thing going on.

what? my prime buffy source lied to me then.

I will be sure to punch him in the face for filling me with horrid misinformation.

I AM YOUR PRIME BUFFY SOURCE NOW!

And don't you forget it!

yes sir ;-;

also, I finally got around to watching "The Zeoop" of season three- damn amazing. classic Whedon. so side-splittingly hilarious, the sheer concept of that they're facing the greatest threat they've ever faced... but the object of the episode if to make the audience care as little as possible. har.

Season Three is probably the best season in overall quality, which is interesting, because it doesn't contain that "one special episode" that almost every subsequent season contains. The one episode that got discussed to death moreso than any other episode, or still gets a lot of credit when it comes to discussing the "best episodes" of the show. Season Four has "Hush," Season Five has "The Body," Season Six has "Once More, With Feeling," and Season Seven has "Conversations with Dead People."

HOLY **** EDIT: Some may know that after the show finished its run, there were several ideas for spin-offs floating around, including a Giles or Spike movie, and a series starring Faith. One of them was also an animated series.

What some may not know, is that a short presentation was put together to pitch the idea to the network. It has just shown up on YouTube. It's been a Holy Grail of sorts of the fan community, and here it is. Wowzers.

Originally Posted by Nolan

The one episode that got discussed to death moreso than any other episode, or still gets a lot of credit when it comes to discussing the "best episodes" of the show. Season Four has "Hush," Season Five has "The Body," Season Six has "Once More, With Feeling," and Season Seven has "Conversations with Dead People."

You forgot The Pack from series one - a personal favourite of mine.

I've actually been watching the first series on DVD this week. It's a lot stronger than I remember it being, and some episodes I had completely forgotten, but I was really shocked by how poor the picture quality is. Although it would take a lot of time and money (especially for the first couple of series) , if there is a God then Buffy will make it to blu-ray. Cordellia's verbal slap-downs shouldn't be watched in grainy standard definition. Charisma Carpenter deserves to be exhibited in glorious high definition.

The scene where Cordellia is dragged off to the chess club in Nightmares is the funniest thing ever.

Originally Posted by Vega

You forgot The Pack from series one - a personal favourite of mine.

While The Pack is a good episode, to be sure, I think the first three seasons are pretty devoid of the "special event" episodes, which isn't to say there aren't any good ones. But episodes like the ones I mentioned are ones that get put on BLOG LISTS and won HUGO AWARDS and maybe even an EMMY. The closest I can think of is maybe Earshot in Season Three, because of the whole psychic thing, plus the whole school shooting deal.

I've actually been watching the first series on DVD this week. It's a lot stronger than I remember it being, and some episodes I had completely forgotten, but I was really shocked by how poor the picture quality is. Although it would take a lot of time and money (especially for the first couple of series) , if there is a God then Buffy will make it to blu-ray. Cordellia's verbal slap-downs shouldn't be watched in grainy standard definition. Charisma Carpenter deserves to be exhibited in glorious high definition.


The scene where Cordellia is dragged off to the chess club in Nightmares is the funniest thing ever.

It is pretty awesome how much it holds up. I agree that the picture quality surprised me when I was watching Season One months back (since I'm now almost done Season Six), almost as much as the high riding jeans and plaid sweaters. And the hair. Oh the hair.

Cordy has some pretty great moments in Angel, some that I think even overshadow her scenes in Buffy. Except the character ends up going through some pretty intense changes, and by the end isn't really a bad character, but really isn't like her old Sunnydale self.

The angel and buffy love theme still gets me every time
A buffy movie would actually be amazing, but the thing is it would need a good story not just a standalone episode exteneded, a-la x-files I want to belive.
I have yet to read season eight, anyone know if it's any good.

All time favourite episode-tabula rasa, just because of the comedy.
Hush is good but a very cliche favourite episodes. Season 7 in my opinion was the weakest season, but good non the less. Gotta love faith in there (Y)

Originally Posted by Life

I have yet to read season eight, anyone know if it's any good.

Season Eight is...it seems like it depends. I like it, others don't like it so much, others love it. I think overall the Angel continuation comics have been a little better, because there have been some weak moments for the Buffy ones. The first arc is pretty flawed, but the standalones have all been awesome, along with Brian K. Vaughan's Faith arc and Drew Goddard's arc. So I guess you could say it starts off a little shake-y, but finds its footing pretty quick.

All time favourite episode-tabula rasa, just because of the comedy.
Hush is good but a very cliche favourite episodes. Season 7 in my opinion was the weakest season, but good non the less. Gotta love faith in there (Y)

Hush is a cliche favourite episodes in that a lot of people pick it as a favourte, I assume you are saying? I can't think of it being cliche (at least no more than any other episode) for any other reason, the premise is fairly unique to television.

Both Season Six and Seven are weaker than any of the previous seasons, but I think that they aren't as weak as people like to think. A lot of it has to do with the show heading down a much darker path, and if you are unwilling to go along for the ride then they certainly come off as being far worse than they actually are. Plus, they both have episodes that are really good that can almost redeem them, especially in Season Six.

Originally Posted by Nolan

Hush is a cliche favourite episodes in that a lot of people pick it as a favourte, I assume you are saying? I can't think of it being cliche (at least no more than any other episode) for any other reason, the premise is fairly unique to television.

Both Season Six and Seven are weaker than any of the previous seasons, but I think that they aren't as weak as people like to think. A lot of it has to do with the show heading down a much darker path, and if you are unwilling to go along for the ride then they certainly come off as being far worse than they actually are. Plus, they both have episodes that are really good that can almost redeem them, especially in Season Six.

Hush because alot of people say it's their favourite episode because of the silent, I personally liked it because the way all the actors in the episode were able to convey everything with out use of words, which I think shows them as brilliant performers.

Season Six I liked very much just because of the fact that it didn't seem to have a point untill the end where every thing became connected, it had no Big Bad untill Willow goes evil. And also Xander saves the world which was a nice little suprise n__n

Season Seven just semed a little messy, like "hey it's the last series, lets destroy all evil and give power to all potential's" it seemed like they could have given it a different big bad so as to show the characters had life after the show, but at the same time I guess you could say that it ties it up neatley and as as season eight shows there is life after the show. I just would have really loved to have seen an angel/buffy joint last season. Now that would have kicked some Arse
XO

Originally Posted by Life

Season Six I liked very much just because of the fact that it didn't seem to have a point untill the end where every thing became connected, it had no Big Bad untill Willow goes evil. And also Xander saves the world which was a nice little suprise n__n

True, Season Six has a huge payoff at the end, can't argue with that. Plus, it has its solid episodes. Tabula Rasa, which was already mentioned, Smashed, Wrecked, and Gone form a nice trio of episodes. I've always loved the episode Doublemeat Palace, because it's just a nice repreive from the gravity of the whole season. Older and Far Away isn't bad if you just take own Dawn's whining. As You Were was nice because we got to see an old friend, and Hell's Bells is sad as hell, but still a great episode overall. Then you get into the big climax and everything is hunky-dory...though, you know, not actually good or happy.

And who doesn't love Once More, With Feeling?

Season Seven just semed a little messy, like "hey it's the last series, lets destroy all evil and give power to all potential's" it seemed like they could have given it a different big bad so as to show the characters had life after the show, but at the same time I guess you could say that it ties it up neatley and as as season eight shows there is life after the show. I just would have really loved to have seen an angel/buffy joint last season. Now that would have kicked some Arse
XO

Well, empowering all the potentials was kind of the point of the whole series. And they don't destroy all evil, they make it pretty clear that The First can't actually be destroyed, they just manage to stop it from destroying the world.

As interesting a relationship Angel and Buffy had, I think by the time Buffy ended, the characters were both in such different places from the last time they were really together that putting them together again wouldn't have accomplished much. That and the fact that they were both dealing with so many different things that really would have had to be ignored if you were to bring them back together again. Plus, it would have meant Angel's Fifth Season would have been different, and it was easily the best season of that show.

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Well, empowering all the potentials was kind of the point of the whole series. And they don't destroy all evil, they make it pretty clear that The First can't actually be destroyed, they just manage to stop it from destroying the world.QUOTE]

Actually come to think of it, after reading the Buffy Season Eight Comics, empowering potentials was an amazing idea, it left open a lot of questions and also a lot of potential, no pun itended, for a lot of story lines.

Continuing the whole comic, I know alot of people didn't think it could transfer to comic, I think it's an amazing job so far in keeping the characters speech and manerisms and holly-pop culture references-batman. Also Dawn has finally become a character I have started to like, I loved her in season 5 but then season six the whole sub plot of her stealing for attention was rubbish but I'm glad they developed on her envy of the potentials "stealing" as it were her sister.

Buffy/Satsu I'm glad was resolved quikcly I would have hated that to have dragged on the whole season. I only have one complaint, the art work in The Time Of Your Life. Also any plans for a continuin Season Nine. It would be great to get my monthly dose of Buffy for a while longer.

-LIFE

Originally Posted by Life

Continuing the whole comic, I know alot of people didn't think it could transfer to comic, I think it's an amazing job so far in keeping the characters speech and manerisms and holly-pop culture references-batman. Also Dawn has finally become a character I have started to like, I loved her in season 5 but then season six the whole sub plot of her stealing for attention was rubbish but I'm glad they developed on her envy of the potentials "stealing" as it were her sister.

Dawn has become an awesome character in the comics, I have to say. I thought she really started moving forwards as a character in Season Seven, especially in the episode Potential, and I think the talk she had with Xander at the end of that episode was really a turning point for her.

Buffy/Satsu I'm glad was resolved quikcly I would have hated that to have dragged on the whole season. I only have one complaint, the art work in The Time Of Your Life. Also any plans for a continuin Season Nine. It would be great to get my monthly dose of Buffy for a while longer.

-LIFE

The whole Buffy/Satsu thing didn't really bother me, and I'm glad they pretty much played it for what it was, a fling, and not some big serious relationship. If anything, it shows that Buffy is in just a fragile state now than she was in Season Six, when she was using a different character for sex, so that she could feel in touch with the world.

The art for the "Time of Your Life" arc is done by Karl Moline, who did the arc for the original Fray series, so it makes sense to bring him in again for the arc involving Fray again. I don't mind it so much, though I guess Georges Jeanty's art is slightly more desirable. I'm just glad Jo Chen is back on covers. Man are those gorgeous.

Anyway, it's already been said by Joss and Dark Horse editor Scott Allie that Season Eight will conclude after forty issues (having just released seventeen, they have aways to go), and then there will be a season nine. However, since Joss is suddenly swamped with work (Dollhouse, Cabin in the Woods, plus the comics), there has recently been talk of delaying Season Nine for awhile, so that he doesn't bite off more than he can chew.

Originally Posted by Nolan

The whole Buffy/Satsu thing didn't really bother me, and I'm glad they pretty much played it for what it was, a fling, and not some big serious relationship. If anything, it shows that Buffy is in just a fragile state now than she was in Season Six, when she was using a different character for sex, so that she could feel in touch with the world.

The art for the "Time of Your Life" arc is done by Karl Moline, who did the arc for the original Fray series, so it makes sense to bring him in again for the arc involving Fray again. I don't mind it so much, though I guess Georges Jeanty's art is slightly more desirable. I'm just glad Jo Chen is back on covers. Man are those gorgeous.

Anyway, it's already been said by Joss and Dark Horse editor Scott Allie that Season Eight will conclude after forty issues (having just released seventeen, they have aways to go), and then there will be a season nine. However, since Joss is suddenly swamped with work (Dollhouse, Cabin in the Woods, plus the comics), there has recently been talk of delaying Season Nine for awhile, so that he doesn't bite off more than he can chew.

I knew that it was only 40 issues, but I'd prefer a good season nine. Thank goodnes that Joss Whendon is overseeing the whole of Season Eight instead of writting the first arc and then hadnind it off. The only thing that dissapoints me is that for I think the third to last arc is going to be centered on OZ which hopefuly will involve Willow as Oz is a character I don't really like that much.

Is The Time Of Your Life Part II for anyone that has read, good?
Need to buy that issue or shall I wait till the whole arc is done and get the whole volume?

Also as to a buffy movie, I think so far that Wolves at the Gate could make a really good adaptation for a film. Think, we have the whole trying to undo the potentials as the main plotline, continuing on from series seven. Love issues with Satsu and Buffy, Xander and Renne and also Dracula, although in reality you might have to take out that whole Dracula sub plot out, otherwise it might take a while to explain the backstory in depth. Dawn for comedic effect. Plus it has a nice little resoloution and leaves a nice ending for a possible sequel adaptation of Time of your life.


-Life