[Music] Hip Hop - General Discussion

i don't know 'boutchu guys

but wtf happened to deltron?

I like Recovery and all, but I feel like Eminem got left behind in the production game for the most part.

Though "No Love" is one of the better produced song and probably holds up to anything Drake or Weezy puts out.

I'm not sure if it's hip-hop, but man

Childish Gambino.

This guys had been blowing my mind, can't get enough of his album Culdesac (free on his website) and his EP I AM JUST A RAPPER. He's full of emotionally deep songs, like the last, but he's also full of arrogant, impudent songs. He's really great, I can't stop listening to him.

He also rapped over Animal Collective and Grizzly Bear.

Mad respect.

No one has mentioned Qwel in this thread yet.

No-one has mentioned Qwel in this thread yet.

Seriously, guys, you're missing out on one of the best rappers. In fact, to my mind, the best. Period. Full stop. The flow, the deftness and eloquence of the lyrics, the lyrical message, the beat, the samplings, the unique style. Whatever he works on, be it the Typical Cats trio, or his frequent team-ups with Maker, boy has style.









To my mind, blows Kanye / Lupe / Cudi / any other big-name rapper out the water. Underground stuff was always better than mainstream in hip-hop, of course, but Qwel just takes the bar and hits so far above standard its just fantastic.

Originally Posted by Luca

I'm not sure if it's hip-hop, but man

Childish Gambino.

This guys had been blowing my mind, can't get enough of his album Culdesac (free on his website) and his EP I AM JUST A RAPPER. He's full of emotionally deep songs, like the last, but he's also full of arrogant, impudent songs. He's really great, I can't stop listening to him.

He also rapped over Animal Collective and Grizzly Bear.

Mad respect.

of course he's hip hop. i told you his music was rap when i first linked you to him

to be fair, he might be "hipster rap"...but that would only be a quality in his lyrics. it's still rap either way.

and yeah childish is incredible. he makes my top 5 rappers easy.

Lupe
'Ye
Childish
Cudi
i don't know who else makes 5....jay? blueprint 1 is incredible. but what about del? or mos? ughhhhh. too many fantastic rappers.

i only have a top 4, evidently. because those are the four that i think top everyone else.

EDIT: woah man, woah. don't get me wrong, qwel is incredible. but i'm having a tough time comparing him to the 4 i have listed. i mean, i have never loved qwel like i've loved ye or lupe.

Originally Posted by nolan

We need to discuss the fact that this album right here is the best produced hip-hop album so far this year:

Oh my goodness, yes, lol.

Just picked it up the other day. There was a sale going on at HMV, and I totally grabbed it. It has that kind of 'it looks so ridiculous, but I bet it's ridiculously good' vibe to it; and it's totally right.

Really digging this track:



And this one:



^ This one attracted all my roommates to my room to see what I was listening too.

Originally Posted by Forte

Lupe
'Ye
Childish
Cudi
i don't know who else makes 5....jay? blueprint 1 is incredible. but what about del? or mos? ughhhhh. too many fantastic rappers.

Mos Def is definitely one of the great rappers. I mean, I focus on the originality of the beat moreso than they lyrics in terms of hip hop and I find that Mos has some of the most killer tracks. Not bad lyrics either, "Mathematics" proves Mos lyrical skills.

Originally Posted by Luca

I'm not sure if it's hip-hop, but man

Childish Gambino.

This guys had been blowing my mind, can't get enough of his album Culdesac (free on his website) and his EP I AM JUST A RAPPER. He's full of emotionally deep songs, like the last, but he's also full of arrogant, impudent songs. He's really great, I can't stop listening to him.

He also rapped over Animal Collective and Grizzly Bear.

Mad respect.

...Is...is that Donald Glover?

Originally Posted by nolan

...Is...is that Donald Glover?

yesm. donald glover is a rapper who keeps his music free on his site.

he calls himself childish gambino so that people don't think he's just joking. rapping is like his hobby/passion or whatever and he figures he doesn't need to profit off of it considering the money he already gets.

'people tell me i should spit under donald glover
but i try to keep my real name undercover
'cause if ya hear my name, then you think it's jokes
and i can't go for that, nigga'

'the last' is a very genuine song. i be on that sports fantastic flow and very clever wordplay/lines. he features artists like garfunkel and oates and raps over indie tracks, etc etc. one of the best.

@nox: I think Mos's lyrics are more than not bad As a freestyle rapper, he has all the right to claim to be one of the best. He can freestyle like ****ing crazy. And lyrically, he's one of the most impressive. "Mathematics" blew my mind.

Alright, to keep the thread from decaying to the typical three-artist rotation(I don't know why there is a hip-hop thread if the extent of everyone's knowledge here revolves around lupe fiasco and kid cudi) but I shall introduce you children and novices to under-appreciated rap & hip-hop that, while steadily gaining national exposure, is still criminally overlooked.

With that said, here's some old school chopped and screwed for you:





And more music from other southern luminaries:




Now, before you say this music sucks, let me preempt you by saying you already failed the test. You can't just like chopped and screwed and/or southern music because it is a state of mind. Not everybody can have the southern mentality because contrary to how you feel, the south trumps all.

This music here encapsulates the ruthlessness of 90's west coast gangster rappers, the conscientiousness and awareness of the east coast, and encapsulates it all into something only a southerner would understand because we do it better. The lines they spit is about the life of a drug dealer and the various undesirable elements of contemporary society, and although I don't expect anybody here to understand that, I still wanted to share the music because it really is good regardless if you can put your mind in that frame or not.

On another note, I've been digging this track for a very long time:



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Also, since I feel it is my duty to spit the rap knowledge none of you possess, let me show you some west coast music that doesn't get much love either.

Back in the early 90's, southern california producers thought that instead of having black gang members end bitter feuds with murders and assaults that it would be more creative to have them collaborate on an album. The end result after two albums was the bloods beating the crips by a very long stretch, and in the end we got this:





also, peep game, before you kids accuse me of only caring about music that glorifies killing and drug dealing and womanizing, know that while you kids were feverishly reading up on guru I was already banging those records.

Gotta admit, I'm no Lupe/Cudi fan. Never have been. Never liked their stuff. Yeah, I know, that marks me out, but I'm a lyrics man, always have been, and they just don't do anything for me. Seems to me they're almost lazy rappers, they don't have the rawness that some of the lesser names can put in. My tastes in hip-hop are rather different. To go through a brief list of my favourite artists (in no particular order):

Qwel
Maker
P.O.S
Aesop Rock
El-P
Mos Def
Gruff Rhys
Slug
Ant
Qwazaar
M.C. Doom

Originally Posted by Crab Helmet

Gotta admit, I'm no Lupe/Cudi fan. Never have been. Never liked their stuff. Yeah, I know, that marks me out, but I'm a lyrics man, always have been, and they just don't do anything for me. Seems to me they're almost lazy rappers, they don't have the rawness that some of the lesser names can put in. My tastes in hip-hop are rather different. To go through a brief list of my favourite artists (in no particular order):

Qwel
Maker
P.O.S
Aesop Rock
El-P
Mos Def
Gruff Rhys
Slug
Ant
Qwazaar
M.C. Doom

I think you mean MF Doom, Crabs. :p

Of those you listed, I like Aesop, El-P, Mos Def, and MF Doom a lot. I'm not too familiar with the others. Honestly, I'm glad you and Discussion are in this thread. I'm a bit if a novice to rap and hip/hop myself so my knowledge is somewhat limited and exposure to new artists is always welcome.

Has anyone ever listened to any pre-getting shot 50 cent? A friend of mine turned me into his unofficially released album The Power of the Dollar and surprsingly, it's actually pretty goddamn good.

Dude, C is directly below F on the keyboard!

Originally Posted by Crab Helmet

Dude, C is directly below F on the keyboard!

MC is also a common thing for rappers to put before their names. Either way it's an easy mistake to make.

Doom is also an incredible rapper, even if he's kind of a ****ty person.

Eleven years I've been waiting for Dr Dre to release material from Detox, and when he finally does it sucks, goddammit.

Oh, something off Detox is finally out?

Edit: http://www.thekoalition.com/audio-dr...gle-from-detox

Just listened to it. The beat is really... busy. I don't know. I really dig Snoop's verse, though.

i skipped that big pretentious post =/

ummmm, now a friend of mine said J. Cole's Friday Night Lights is incredible. i do seem to recall him being featured on some great tracks but aside from that i know nothing of j. cole really. anybody have any opinions on him/that album?

My friends all love it, but I haven't listened to it yet.

your friends too? i might check it out, myself. i love discovering new hip hop artists. i like discovering all new artists, but yeah.

Apparently Weezy is going to be performing with Eminem on SNL in a few weeks.

If they do "No Love" I will die happy.