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Old 05-09-2012, 05:58 PM
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Re: The Avengers (2012)

Well, Captain America... The Hulk movies weren't that great... largelyt because well... they haven't played Hulk very well, they tried making the movies epic and serious and all that... and it just didn't work out, whereas in the Avengers he's for the most part funny and awesome. And I think that has a lot to do with the fact that he isn't the center of attention, he isn't the be-all, end-all of the movie. When Banner tranformed in the other movies it's like "oh this is really serious, all of these characters are affected by this now and it's bad" whereas in the Avengers... sure, the first time he transforms it is pretty serious, but more in an "oh ❤❤❤❤" kind of way. And after that, Hulk is used to do what he does best: smash things.

However, the other characters are deep enough to have their own storyline. Granted I thought Captain America and Thor were just... okay, not bad by any means but... eh, nothing great about them. That being said, those movies worked out well on their own and the Iron Man movies I thought were really good because Stark is such a colorful character and the movies are more about him than Iron Man, if you catch my drift.
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:27 PM
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Can I get a name request change to "Hulk" by anyone with special powers??
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:15 AM
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see, my big issue now is seeing these guys have their own film. Seeing Bruce run around being badass won't be the same without Tony to nerd out with, or Cap'n to say SMASH, or Thor to be tagged. It's just like... yeah. Do you get my point?
I feel the same way. I've never been able to enjoy a movie set in space because you don't have Han Solo delivering his quirky lines and fighting ❤❤❤❤ alongside Chewbacca. It just ruined the whole experience for me.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:46 AM
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:52 AM
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To be fair, the Avengers would give them a good run for their money, especially given that all but one of them are Earth mortal humans. Whereas the Justice League are either aliens (Superman, Power Girl, Martian Manhunter), alien-powered (Green Lantern), or magical (Wonder Woman, Hawkman, Aquaman).

So out of all of the Avengers, you have Iron Man, Hawkeye, Bruce, Black Widow and Cap who are Earth humans. Augmented humans, but nontheless humans. You then have Thor, who is the Norse God of Thunder.

(Also it's a testament to the characterisation of Bruce Banner in the Avengers that, for the first time ever, I didn't default to typing "The Hulk").

So regardless of who'd win, it's impressive that the Avengers even pose a threat given that they are all but one mortal men (and woman) who have achieved things that the Justice League couldn't without being born that way (speaking as a primarily Green Lantern fan).
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:13 PM
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They did have a crossover comic once. It made me dislike Superman more.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:29 PM
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I've seen a page somewhere with Superman saying to the Avengers "Don't encroach on our turf" basically. It made him look like the bully he is.
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Old 05-12-2012, 01:10 PM
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Re: The Avengers (2012)

Sentry alone can take down Justice League. Even if he fails, the void will do the job. If you ask me superman is the only one who could be an obstacle for him, but still, supes is not strong enough to handle him.

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Out of topic, but that JLA vs Avengers cover is among one of the worst covers I've seen.
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:03 PM
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Also, bear in mind that if the Avengers eventually get the members they had in the comics, the Justice League's chances drop to 0. Primarily due to The Sentry and the Scarlet Witch, but to be fair there have been plenty of overpowered Avengers.
I'm not sure who the Scarlet Witch is but I can honestly say that I hope the Sentry never gets transferred to film.
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:53 PM
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She's the one that caused the Avengers to disassemble too. This had a great impact in the Avenger's history. And the damages of these actions started by her was later said to be part of the reason of Civil War. If I remember.

A Sentry movie would be interesting. Very. But they would have to fit many other characters in it, they'll have to explain the weird friendship between Bob and Hulk, and his relations with the FF and other heroes.
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Old 05-12-2012, 03:06 PM
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A Sentry movie would be boring as hell, just like the character.
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Old 05-12-2012, 03:30 PM
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Old 05-12-2012, 03:32 PM
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I don't know what is the general consensus here but I did not find the character boring. I never really liked Jae Lee's art style, but he did a great work for the Sentry's limited series. The dark tone he used fit perfectly in the book.
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Old 05-12-2012, 03:57 PM
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To be a supporting character he'll need to have his own movie too, a man with the power of a million exploding suns can't just pass in a movie to support a character like that. Character development is needed, Reynolds is not like any simple SHIELD agent that takes orders and goes in the field. He is dependent on drugs and he knows it. He is the or one of the most powerful beings and he is certainly the only one to be able to handle certain situations, for example Michael, who would probably have destroyed more cities and killed more heroes after Alpha Flight.

So to save the world he needs his drugs, and he knows the circumstances of using his powers. His weakness, is that he got easily manipulated into using more of his power. Feeding the void, destroying Asgard. This one character and Scarlett Witch, both outstandingly powerful beings, have changed the course of the Marvel universe in the 10 last years. Chains of events provoked by them, and many who did not read the comics do not even know them. They deserve to get their movies. But I know that will not happen until a very long time.
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Old 05-12-2012, 04:49 PM
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I thought The Sentry's origin was contrived and his entire arc was predictable and dull. Once you introduce a character so overblown with PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWERS, it's only a matter of time before they turn bad and eventually get killed, despite the fact that they were always portrayed as indestructible up to that point.

Take away all the powers and the character still isn't all that interesting. Drug addiction, split personality, it's all been done often, and usually better.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:36 PM
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Finally watched The Avengers. AAAAAAAGGGGGG it was so amazing! No words. No words.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:07 AM
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Addiction, splt personality have been done, better, I agree. I can't say The Sentry was as good as Moon Knight or Joe Kelly's run on Deadpool, but the Sentry had many of these elements all fixed together, he was mentaly weak, I often refered to him as a retard. But I love the way in which his thinkings were explained. A book is not only about how a Detective like batman thinks and investigates. It is the way in which a writer expresses the feelings in a comic. Bob isn't a psychotic maniac like many troubled supes are. He is just a nobodoby who is trying to run away from the drugs, but strives to get back his powers and be a hero.
It has been foreseen that such a powerful being would not succeed as a hero, back then we believed that we would soon see a cover similar to Captain Marvel's death, having death holding the Sentry's corpse.
Anyway, it's a movie we are talking about and such a movie featuring a maniac superhero has not been made, so we do not know how it may turn out. That's why I want to see Deadpool whether it will be released in 2014 or not.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:30 AM
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I've seen a page somewhere with Superman saying to the Avengers "Don't encroach on our turf" basically. It made him look like the bully he is.
It's also because of this. I mean, just how OP and perfect this guy can be? >.<
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:20 AM
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I've seen a page somewhere with Superman saying to the Avengers "Don't encroach on our turf" basically. It made him look like the bully he is.
Well there is a reason why this website is based on the dickishness of Supes.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:21 AM
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All I have to say on the Superman discussion is;

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