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Re: ZU's Favourite Albums - Ideas and Suggestions

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After we get everyone's top 15, how will we order them? General consensus? Or are we not going to order them beyond that?
The way I laid it out in the first post is that every rank corresponds to a number of points. So at the end the points are totaled and then rank is assigned to each album.

Though like I've said, its likely that there's going to be a lot of ties and whatnot, because I don't expect too many repeats.

I'm open to other methods that may be better, though.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:26 PM
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The way I laid it out in the first post is that every rank corresponds to a number of points. So at the end the points are totaled and then rank is assigned to each album.

Though like I've said, its likely that there's going to be a lot of ties and whatnot, because I don't expect too many repeats.

I'm open to other methods that may be better, though.
Doesn't that require albums to be submitted more than once?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:28 PM
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Doesn't that require albums to be submitted more than once?
The more crossover there is, the better, which is why it might not be the best system in this case. But I can't think of any other effective way to do it, really.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:44 PM
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The more crossover there is, the better, which is why it might not be the best system in this case. But I can't think of any other effective way to do it, really.
This?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:51 PM
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I'm not sure what that is, but it seems like thats a nomination/popular vote type thing. Which has a couple problems, such as won't most people just vote for the fifteen albums they submitted? Won't it only really work if everyone has heard every album that is nominated, so that every album has a fair shot of getting a vote?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:56 PM
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I'm not sure what that is, but it seems like thats a nomination/popular vote type thing. Which has a couple problems, such as won't most people just vote for the fifteen albums they submitted? Won't it only really work if everyone has heard every album that is nominated, so that every album has a fair shot of getting a vote?
This is Google Moderator. How it works is that, when you visit the page it picks a random idea (album in our case) and lets you vote for or against it, or hold your vote. This way, voting for your own albums will be leveled out because you can vote against other people's albums, and you can't vote for the same album twice. (When you submit your album that counts as a vote for it.)

It also allows embedded Youtube videos, where you can link to songs from the album so that people can get an idea of how it sounds before they vote. This is very similar (and possibly the same technology) which the Obama administration used on Change.gov when they polled the Internet to find out what issues mattered to them, and the same software Google used when they asked the Internet how to improve broadband Internet connections.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:59 PM
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This isn't also the submission thread? Well, ****.



I'll try to keep mine relatively obscure to help level out your boringness.

But seriously, don't be boring. That's what every other 'best ever' list is for.
I suppose. I'll just stay true.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:03 PM
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I'd be happy to contribute. I'm fairly sure I can come up with 15 albums that other people wouldn't suggest.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:09 PM
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Re: ZU's Favourite Albums - Ideas and Suggestions

I might as well contribute into this.

Pinkerton - Weezer
Costello Music - The Fratellis
Illmatic - Nas
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:10 PM
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Re: ZU's Favourite Albums - Ideas and Suggestions

I don't think we're quite at nominations yet.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:17 PM
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This is Google Moderator. How it works is that, when you visit the page it picks a random idea (album in our case) and lets you vote for or against it, or hold your vote. This way, voting for your own albums will be leveled out because you can vote against other people's albums, and you can't vote for the same album twice. (When you submit your album that counts as a vote for it.)

It also allows embedded Youtube videos, where you can link to songs from the album so that people can get an idea of how it sounds before they vote. This is very similar (and possibly the same technology) which the Obama administration used on Change.gov when they polled the Internet to find out what issues mattered to them, and the same software Google used when they asked the Internet how to improve broadband Internet connections.
Hm. Well that sounds pretty viable. I'll fiddle around with it some tonight/tomorrow and get a feel for it.

Anyone else want to chime in? Does this system sound better than the one laid out in the first post?
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:26 PM
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Re: ZU's Favourite Albums - Ideas and Suggestions

Well, while we're waiting, feel free to start submitting your albums to my Google Moderator series here, everyone:

http://moderator.appspot.com/#15/e=d2b51&t=d2b52

Along with attached Youtube videos of your favorite song(s) from your suggested album.

This will at least give people something to play with so that we can get a feel for the Moderator system.

EDIT: also, if we're using this system there's no point to the album limit/minimum of 15. We can just submit as many or as little albums as we want.
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Re: ZU's Favourite Albums - Ideas and Suggestions

Guys, we can pretty much eliminate ties by using a point system. #1 is 20 points, #2 is 19, #3 is 18, then #20 is 1 point.
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Guys, we can pretty much eliminate ties by using a point system. #1 is 20 points, #2 is 19, #3 is 18, then #20 is 1 point.
Except that, considering the amount of albums ever... there won't be many duplicates, so we'll see many albums with 20 points, 19 points, 18, 17, 16, etc... all tied.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:32 PM
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Just to let you know, I've posted my entries with artist first, followed by album.

I've just submitted five for now.
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:46 PM
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Just to let you know, I've posted my entries with artist first, followed by album.

I've just submitted five for now.
This is not submissions yet.

I'll contribute when you guys get the whole Google Mod thing set up or whatever system you plan to use is up.
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This is not submissions yet.

I'll contribute when you guys get the whole Google Mod thing set up or whatever system you plan to use is up.
It is now, 8bit posted the submissions link just a couple of posts up:

http://moderator.appspot.com/#15/e=d2b51&t=d2b52
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:52 PM
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That isn't the definite system being used yet, however.
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I'm in.
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That isn't the definite system being used yet, however.
I know, but it'd still be good to submit entries there for now, since it's an opportunity to see how the Moderator system works.
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