The Artists Café! - You can do anything you want and it's always going to look good

Loomis' book sure were classy, that's for sure. I know he was a commercial illustrator in his day, but he's only really well-known for his books.

About the comics thing... I'm updating my map, so I'll go more in depth.

Where do you get the maps from?

Here's the template:
Influence Map Template by `fox-orian on deviantART
Here's a revised version of mine.



I left out 'comics' because most of the time, it's not the comics, but the artists behind them.

Did your father do that illustration? It's pretty awesome painting.
<3


And Adam Hughes is really cool.
^_^


I look forward to the day that I can do this, too!

Originally Posted by Jehanne

Did your father do that illustration? It's pretty awesome painting.
<3


And Adam Hughes is really cool.
^_^


I look forward to the day that I can do this, too!

Yes he did, years ago for self-promotion.

Dang, artist skills must run in your family then!

Originally Posted by Stormy

Dang, artist skills must run in your family then!

I don't think you're being serious
but I hate this notion.

I hate the idea that you can be better at art because people in your family are...sure if you grow up around art your entire life and are encouraged to try it at an early age, you might be better than someone who hasn't, but I think everyone can attain the skills that most artists use and be truly good.

I HATE when people say they aren't "talented" enough or "oh, you're so talented"...anyone can be good art rendering things, you just have to practice.

/unnecessarysoapbox

So I did one now too!



Look at all the cartoons oh my god

Originally Posted by Vynrah

I don't think you're being serious
but I hate this notion.

I hate the idea that you can be better at art because people in your family are...sure if you grow up around art your entire life and are encouraged to try it at an early age, you might be better than someone who hasn't, but I think everyone can attain the skills that most artists use and be truly good.

I HATE when people say they aren't "talented" enough or "oh, you're so talented"...anyone can be good art rendering things, you just have to practice.

Uh, I was serious, but I did not mean it this way at all. I meant that either the Osus Brothers' family is either gifted with natural art skills or their parents were professional artists that began teaching them at an early age, thus passing on the skills to the next generation.

Originally Posted by Stormy

Uh, I was serious, but I did not mean it this way at all. I meant that either the Osus Brothers' family is either gifted with natural art skills or their parents were professional artists that began teaching them at an early age, thus passing on the skills to the next generation.

That's exactly what I said I resent.

You're just jealous because it's true. There is a such thing as people being born with natural talents. These children are called gifted children. I know, as I happen to be one of them and I've studied a little bit about them. My school teachers always noticed that I read and spelled better than my classmates (I could read and spell fairly long words in KINDERGARTEN, damn it) and that I had no problems with it whatsoever. I also picked up graphics and web design skills faster than my classmates in high school. I also always had very high marks in Geometry and was the only student out of all three of my teacher's Geometry classes to score a 100 on one of his tests.

I should also mention that I often got high grades in science as well (except for 6th grade...), but that wasn't really a gift. I just enjoyed the stuff enough to work hard at it. I was honestly never that fond of anything else in school. xP

There are many talents people can be gifted with naturally. Playing music, singing, and most importantly in this case, art.

Ranil, stop.
We don't need your special brand of kindergarten tactics brought to what was a peaceful thread.

/Rent-a-modding loud and clear

I was actually never sure whether or not "artistic" talent was innate or learned. You obviously learn to be good at it, but I wondered whether it was like other traits that some people have and others just don't.
I was never clear on the whole "you can do it if you really really try" thing for skills people have.
For instance, I suck at a lot of things even if I wish I didn't.

EDIT: To clarify what I was talking about, I never thought anyone was "born" with some sort of innate ability to kick ass at everything... I meant more that I wondered if people have innate propensities for certain things.
For instance X will be able to learn some things while Y just can't seem to get the hang of it no matter how hard they try.

EDIT2: And I don't see "talented" as an insult, because in my eyes you become talented.

Originally Posted by Jehanne

Tonch, I think that some people have an easier time learning the arts

This is what I meant to imply. I'm not saying some people can just pick up a pencil for the first time and automatically be pro artists. I'm saying that drawing and such is easy for them to get the hang of and easy for them to improve in. Thus, they improve quicker than normal and become great artists faster than other people.

I know it wasn't directed toward me,yeah.

But I still don't think "talented" sounds bad to me...
I always viewed "talent" as something you develop.
Like you develop a talent for whistling, or develop a talent for doing intense stunts.
I never viewed it as "doesn't have to try".

Originally Posted by Tonch

I know it wasn't directed toward me,yeah.

But I still don't think "talented" sounds bad to me...
I always viewed "talent" as something you develop.
Like you develop a talent for whistling, or develop a talent for doing intense stunts.
I never viewed it as "doesn't have to try".

My issue is that most other people don't use it in that context though...they use it in the "naturally gifted" way. Which...is weird, but I can see what you're saying.

The whole "naturally gifted" thing is unfair, both to those whom people refer, and everyone else.

But yeah now that that conversation went nowhere can we return to the more delightful topic of influence maps?

EDIT: NOT TO RENT-A-MOD OR ANYTHING BUT

^Good idea. I'm working on mine right now. Some things I'll include should be pretty obvious though lol. XD

When you guys do your influence map, do you put down who has influenced your own personal work, or do you put down who you'd like to influence your work?

O.o

Originally Posted by Jehanne

When you guys do your influence map, do you put down who has influenced your own personal work, or do you put down who you'd like to influence your work?

O.o

Well I assume anything you are really into is an influence on you...

So they're probably one in the same.

Originally Posted by Jehanne

When you guys do your influence map, do you put down who has influenced your own personal work, or do you put down who you'd like to influence your work?

O.o

I assume it's who has, but I don't feel like I can do one...? I'm not really sure I have a style, let alone where it came from. o_o