Poetry (in four languages)

I have taken a poem from the Legend of Zelda and had it spoken in four other languages.

Tolkien's Elvish

My Ancient Hylian

My Sheikahn

And Common.

These four languages should be used in EVERY poem in order to make a poem great! So for instance, take your poems and turn 'em upside down with these four languages! YOu can do it! Try it! It's worth it!

However the only two languages accessable are Sheikahn (which is Latin) and Sindarin/Quenya. Ancient Hylian is not accessable.

-Tenial

Err... I don't get it. Does a poem bocome greater if it is written in four made up languages? o_O

well perhaps that possible, if Sindarin/Quenya was complete, tolkien didnt complete the entire language so you cant write every poem you want, and sheikah/latin is also very hard, ancient hylian is possible tough, but you need to know how to speak japanese, and you need one of them hylian/japanese pictures.

and back to sindarin/quenya, you do have to find it on the internet or somewhere else, its a good idead but not doable by just anyone.

and stormay, if you would write a poem in a different language, wouldnt you agree that, the writer did some hard work? (especially with "made-up, incomplete languages")

hey I don't need Japanese to create Ancient Hylian, cause I'm actually trying to make Zelda better than it is and it may not work but at least I have proof that I worked my arse off to create myths behind Zelda and characters. It's as though you're saying I should just give up because it's not creative.

Fact: http://www.freedict.com/onldict/lat.html is a good place for a latin translator.

Fact: Tolkien based some of his languages on some Old English stuff. For instance, the Tengwar have some similarities to Old English letters and Rohirric is based on Old English.

Fact: I ain't just 'anyone'.

Hey! Yeah tenial's right, and I've done my own code-like hylian stuff in the past, based on Old English, while trarnslating names to fit in right. Like Farore, Fyror...
But anyway good job dude it looks really interesting... cept don't you wanna distance yourself from Tolkien? Man, I think you should do it for the love of words and myth and stuff rather than try and being like someone else... But cool job dude, what does Link mean in Hylian...? What about Zelda...? Oh dude I'm already hooked!

Thank ye Sword-breaker, and I do distant myself from Tolkien even though he's an idle for my writing (which hasn't been seen yet), and I do have the great love fer me myth and words and because of that love I even made up a chronlogy and a Bible to the Legend of Zelda. Called 'Evangdulam' I think... Not sure 'bout the title yet...

Anyway, still in progress, I try to get inspirations for AH from Tolkien's elvish yet I try my best to make 'em distant. In AH to say 'Link' can be 'Luian', for Zelda it can be 'Zeilda' (actually it's without the 'i' and the 'e' has a ',' above it for the prounounciation of 'ei'). To keep the Goron named after Link I had the Goron named Laink... yes, very ugly but miners have ugly talk don't you think? Just joking.

No offense to those who hate this idea I'm just giving SB an example of what I've been doing these past three years. Because I like my own work don't lay a finger on these words, and if you ever use 'em you'll be left with only a few words and the rest will sound ugly.

Farorë! Ithúrenta o Úmendín, ofúdel mih ivalún úmendín!

It is several lines spoken by Link when he faces a squid in Ice Cavern. 'Farore! Goddes of Courage, give me your courage!'

I actually think basing Hylian on Old English is a wonderful idea as making Gerudo after Arabian (at least that's what a friend of mine has done)! In fact that could be Common Hylian, for I have two Hylians. Ancient (during the Fierce Wars), and Common (from OoT to TWW). Man that's an amazing idea to make a Hylian language into Old English. You've got a nice brain in there!

-Tenial

P.S., Now I realize what you mean Foamy. I thought you meant I should base Hylian on Japanese but I now know you meant I should learn it in case I DO pop into a japanese. Thank ye.

wo, wo, wo, calm down horsey.
if i offended you in any way, that wasnt my intention.
i was just saying what i tought at the moment, you odnt have to go all ape over me.

No offense taken Foamy.

and stormay, if you would write a poem in a different language, wouldnt you agree that, the writer did some hard work? (especially with "made-up, incomplete languages")

The amount of work has nothing to do with the quality of the poem and since these made up, largely incomplete languages are only spoken by a handful, the poems wouln't even be understood by normal people, thereby wasting all the work. And personally, I'd rather read a good poem in one language than a half-lame one in four.

Think about it... "Are you sleeping, brother John?" - song exists in way too many languages already, counting in spanish, swedish, french, german, finnish and russian. Does the language fact make the song ultra-great?

true true, but i didnt say that the quality of the poem would increase, i said that the writer did some ahrd work figuring out hte languages and translating it. maybe you just misunderstood me, i have that effect on people. (im just mis understood.... )

And in the same way, the reader will need excessive amount of work to be able to read the very same poem. It just doesn't make sense...

So? There are languages I don't understand yet they're still being used. There are thousands of peope who write in another langauge and do poetry in their langauge and I don't understand yet you beat on me just because you don't understand. Writers have made up languages yet I don't see you beat up on them saying 'Come on! USE ENGLISH!'

Are you saying I should just give up just because I'm a 'fan'?

The thing is that no one is challenged now a days and that's boring and this is my way of saying 'enjoy'. Besides, people ALWAYS love to learn a new langauge. I know people who can speak Tolkien's Elvish instantly.

Look, I'm just doing this for fun, for myself, the book, and the readers.

I quote your first post...

These four languages should be used in EVERY poem in order to make a poem great! So for instance, take your poems and turn 'em upside down with these four languages! YOu can do it! Try it! It's worth it!

No matter what you think I debate against, this is what make you sound so stupid. If you just posted that you managed to make a poem in four different languages and maybe even posted them all, then godspeed! Nice work lad... I don't get them, but as much work as you've put down, they are surely great.

Sadly, that is not the case... It is not at all worth the time to convert a poem to four languages (whereof four made up) and thereby think that you have in some way improved it.

Now, before you reply again, please read my posts, so you don't miss valuable information. :rolleyes:

Where is this mystical poetry?

Alrighty, I get your point Stormay.

What do you mean Sage? Do you mean the actual poem or the languages?

me thinks he/she means the poems.
and lets just do what we like nad respect other, blablabla (im sounding like a adult right now, i dont like it)

Well the poems themselves are in the Zelda Games.

Of course a poem can be great written in four different languages. Because of the accent, the vowels and the tone! I have not practised much the languages in Tolkien's works, but I have made up two languages of my own which I am at the moment arranging in an alphabet and memorizing so that I can use it in my story! Quite interesting!