"Zelda the Anime, TP" Recruiting now!

Hey, The Metal?
Shut the F*** up.
Why do you act like this? Give the guy a beeping chance.
I would work on it. Why must you insult him?
If you think it will fail so miserably, why do you keep insulting Zfan over the internet?
And, twilightwolf?
Go away. You're so annoying. Do you have to insult every thread you see?
As i said, give the guy a chance.
It could be really good if he got people to help.
Zfan?
You need to just make a website that news for the Anime can be on.
Just get a guy to do backgrounds, and you're set.
It 's gonna be shonen, right?
Maybe, if it's good, you can send it in to nintendo or show it at a comic con.
It could get you an E3 invitation!
Sincerely,
A supporter of the Anime cause,
Valhelm Kesh Freidrich Veirnen Ries

Originally Posted by Valhelm

Hey, The Metal?
Shut the F*** up.
Why do you act like this? Give the guy a beeping chance.
I would work on it. Why must you insult him?
If you think it will fail so miserably, why do you keep insulting Zfan over the internet?
And, twilightwolf?
Go away. You're so annoying. Do you have to insult every thread you see?
As i said, give the guy a chance.
It could be really good if he got people to help.
Zfan?
You need to just make a website that news for the Anime can be on.
Just get a guy to do backgrounds, and you're set.
It 's gonna be shonen, right?
Maybe, if it's good, you can send it in to nintendo or show it at a comic con.
It could get you an E3 invitation!
Sincerely,
A supporter of the Anime cause,
Valhelm Kesh Freidrich Veirnen Ries

Your going on about the Anime still? Well then, your more dillusional then I once thought. Considering that the Anime idea was given up pages ago in favor of a comic... yeah. E3 invitation? Yeah... I don't think so. Showing the comic at Comic Con? Wow.

ZAP! presents: 13 Rupees
http://zeldacomic.net

Yeah, two successful Zelda comic's... neither of which Nintendo gives a crap about. In fact, if Nintendo knew of the first one they may very well shut them down. It does not matter how amazing you and some fans think something is... Nintendo will not care. Could you get it "featured" in Nintendo Power fan art section? Sure, but thats about your only hope for any support from Nintendo. You will not get invited to Comic Con, and you will not get a E3 invitation. Sorry, but the only reason a site like Penny Arcade was able to accomplish things like this is because they created a very original ongoing web comic that is not directly tied to any one game specificaly. See, when you make comics that are based soley around a game, it never gets any bigger then a few fans on the internet. THe reason? You can't sell it, (you can buy most of Penny Arcade stuff in neatly put together books) you can't take it to Comic Con, simply because it's not an original comic and breaks copyright laws (thats right, if you actually try to do anything with your comic Nintendo will shut you down). Simply put, the best he can hope for is to become just like Zelda Comic.

Originally Posted by Nathan

Your going on about the Anime still? Well then, your more dillusional then I once thought. Considering that the Anime idea was given up pages ago in favor of a comic... yeah. E3 invitation? Yeah... I don't think so. Showing the comic at Comic Con? Wow.

ZAP! presents: 13 Rupees
Zelda Comic - By Mario Panighetti (updated Mondays)

Yeah, two successful Zelda comic's... neither of which Nintendo gives a crap about. In fact, if Nintendo knew of the first one they may very well shut them down. It does not matter how amazing you and some fans think something is... Nintendo will not care. Could you get it "featured" in Nintendo Power fan art section? Sure, but thats about your only hope for any support from Nintendo. You will not get invited to Comic Con, and you will not get a E3 invitation. Sorry, but the only reason a site like Penny Arcade was able to accomplish things like this is because they created a very original ongoing web comic that is not directly tied to any one game specificaly. See, when you make comics that are based soley around a game, it never gets any bigger then a few fans on the internet. THe reason? You can't sell it, (you can buy most of Penny Arcade stuff in neatly put together books) you can't take it to Comic Con, simply because it's not an original comic and breaks copyright laws (thats right, if you actually try to do anything with your comic Nintendo will shut you down). Simply put, the best he can hope for is to become just like Zelda Comic.

Uh earth to dufus, you need to chill. It's not that I "gave up" on the anime, if I can/do get enough help to do it then I WILL. Hell, even I can come up with a decent zelda-"related" storyline 4 an anime. Maybe not(in your terms) as baddass as Naruto, more like avatar. Cause I kinda like THAT artstyle more. I think I'll stick to a comic for now, that way anyone who "decides" to help can get a feel for the story we're eventually be doing. There's this kid on youtube who's done his own anime (drawing it himself) so don't go claiming that it's not possible! I ALREADY have a story, all I need r some art guys & sound guys & I'm ready to go. Also, what is it with your "lets kill the optimest" attitude? Drama's fun, but not when "you're" the one being picked on!

Originally Posted by zfan121

Uh earth to dufus, you need to chill. It's not that I "gave up" on the anime, if I can/do get enough help to do it then I WILL. Hell, even I can come up with a decent zelda-"related" storyline 4 an anime. Maybe not(in your terms) as baddass as Naruto, more like avatar. Cause I kinda like THAT artstyle more. I think I'll stick to a comic for now, that way anyone who "decides" to help can get a feel for the story we're eventually be doing. There's this kid on youtube who's done his own anime (drawing it himself) so don't go claiming that it's not possible! I ALREADY have a story, all I need r some art guys & sound guys & I'm ready to go. Also, what is it with your "lets kill the optimest" attitude? Drama's fun, but not when "you're" the one being picked on!

I bolded three areas, and I will address each accordingly.

1. Naruto sucks. Period. Sure, it has "success", but so do shows like Barney and Teletubbies. If you put it on TV, someone is bound to watch. Anyways, your referring to art styles... and there isn't much else I can say here. I just don't like Naruto. I know it has it's fan base, as everything does. Oh, and most don't consider Naruto Badass, even those that like it. Again, this is just opinions. Not worth arguing over.

2. An Anime does not exist without animation. In fact, animation is the CORE of an Anime. I assume you are referring to one of these videos:

YouTube - Zelda Anime Pictures
YouTube - Zelda anime trailer hoax
YouTube - Zelda Anime Pictures

The only one with any animation is video two. That video, unfortunately, is hoax and the footage is not Zelda related. So, yeah I am claiming it's not possible for simple fans. Sure, you can find artists. Yeah, you can have a story. Sure, you can even find some voice acting and music people. The thing that will stop it all is actual animation. Unless, of course, the artist wants to draw 70 million pictures so you can run it like a piece of film to get the illusion of movements and such. As I said, use your head. I am not here to kill optismism. It's one thing to be optimistic about winning a game, or getting a good grade. It's another to optimistic about something that isn't even in the realm of possibility. So yeah, I will tell you a anime is not possible. Your entire argument that a fan already did one drawing pictures himself is a total falicy. There is just a slide show trying to tell a story. You know what those are usually called?

Comics.

3. In order to write and construct a coherent story, you need to be fairly decent at writing itself. I see that you use abbreviations like "u" and "r" instead of the actual words. That just wont do. Lets assume this isn't a issue. You claim to have a story. Thats wonderful. I could just as easily glance at ANY fan fiction area and come up with a story. After all, that is what the story entails. It's the easiest part. Based on your grammar and punctuation, I am not very confident that your story is well written. Hey, I could be wrong. Maybe your story is fantastic. Even with that... you need more then some art and sound people. You need people that can produce animations, and that is something you wont find in the fan community.

Originally Posted by Valhelm

And, twilightwolf?
Go away. You're so annoying. Do you have to insult every thread you see?

I'm the annoying one? If anyone here is annoying, it's Zfan and you, kid. And you are telling me to go away? Listen, mate, you have absolutely no authority over me. I do not take orders from you, kid.

And as do I have to insult people in every thread I see? No. I only insult those who lack intelligence.

And you do realize that by supporting this guy, you're making yourself look like an idiot, right?

Oh, and Zfan? GIVE. IT. UP. You will fail, and yet you are too pigheaded to listen to reason and realize that. By continuing to pursue this impossibility, you are only insulting your own intelligence.

Originally Posted by Valhelm

Hey, The Metal?
Shut the F*** up.
Why do you act like this? Give the guy a beeping chance.
I would work on it. Why must you insult him?
If you think it will fail so miserably, why do you keep insulting Zfan over the internet?

Rofl This are just leik in mah dramaz thread. He are recruiting n00bs against us. You are soooo predictable.

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Agreed that this is the best thread of 08.


To a more serious note:
You were talking about making a game. First think about this: is this what I want to do? If that's what you want to do, then ask yourself: Do I have talents? To read a book and do an example is not talent. That is to follow a preset. The moment you program something that you don't need any guidiance for, then you have skills. You can gain these skills by going on a school that teaches programming or just by studying for yourself. I have learned Java, which is a pretty easy and relative powerful programming language, for about two years by myself. I have three books, two about general programming and one about gaming programming. I am also going to go five years on school to become a computer engineer, starting this automn. Then I might consider myself good enough to learn game programming on level with some of the indie games, and I may continue my education and follow a game programming course for perhaps two intensive years, work at a game company as a minor programmer and then working myself up to become a gameprogrammer. The whole process might take nine years. Do you want to do that?

For those that sill insist on insulting, trying to brain-wash, or prove optimists (like me) wrong for what they are trying/thinking of doing. Here's a nice little speach for you.

Without the optimists the world had "back in the day" we wouldn't be anywhere close to what we actually have now! Without the Wright Brothers and their optimisom, we wouldn't have flight. Without Einstien or Shakespear we wouldn't have any logic or literature. Without Harrison Ford we wouldn't have Porche Corvetts, or any of that. Without Eddison we wouldn't have descovered electricity! All of the things we have today only exist because of optimists that didn't care about how crazy their ideas sounded!

My project may not have as big an impact on the world as theirs did, but their kind of detirmination is what I have to do this. Weather it crashes and burns doesn't matter to me, the only thing that matters is getting it done. Success or not.

Also I ONLY use chat-related abrivviations online, NEVER in books or any writing that I do. I don't see you guys writing a 287 page fan-fiction in your free time cause you want to, and you guys don't see me making this project happen. So what's the point in arguing? I want to do it, when I can do it, weather you like it or not! (And no I wasn't standing on my bed when I wrote this. )

Originally Posted by Fluesopp

BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Agreed that this is the best thread of 08.


To a more serious note:
You were talking about making a game. First think about this: is this what I want to do? If that's what you want to do, then ask yourself: Do I have talents? To read a book and do an example is not talent. That is to follow a preset. The moment you program something that you don't need any guidiance for, then you have skills. You can gain these skills by going on a school that teaches programming or just by studying for yourself. I have learned Java, which is a pretty easy and relative powerful programming language, for about two years by myself. I have three books, two about general programming and one about gaming programming. I am also going to go five years on school to become a computer engineer, starting this automn. Then I might consider myself good enough to learn game programming on level with some of the indie games, and I may continue my education and follow a game programming course for perhaps two intensive years, work at a game company as a minor programmer and then working myself up to become a gameprogrammer. The whole process might take nine years. Do you want to do that?

One, read my last post. And two yeah, I don't care how long it takes. But I'm going to do it cause it's something I like a lot. I may not do anything more than hobby books for now, but that's only because of money issues.

Anyways I get what you're trying to say, and I'm glad you said it in a nicer way than these other guys did. It's this kind of response that I understand, anything else is just angerly-written garbage with the only goal of tearing me down. Which by the way, won't work anymore. I'm probably the most detirmaned dreamer here, mock that fact all you want. But that's me and I'm not changing my mind, just to make you guys (not the one I'm quoting) shut up!
Edit:Sorry I didn't see this post while doing the other response.

Originally Posted by zfan121

For those that sill insist on insulting, trying to brain-wash, or prove optimists (like me) wrong for what they are trying/thinking of doing. Here's a nice little speach for you.

Oh lord, here he goes again.

Without the optimists the world had "back in the day" we wouldn't be anywhere close to what we actually have now!
Without the Wright Brothers and their optimisom, we wouldn't have flight.

The Wright Brothers actually knew what they were doing, unlike you.

Without Einstien or Shakespear we wouldn't have any logic or literature.

Logic and literature have existed for millenia, mate. Einstein and Shakespeare didn't invent them, they just contributed to them.

Without Harrison Ford we wouldn't have Porche Corvetts, or any of that.

Good! That means less cars contributing to Global Warming!

Without Eddison we wouldn't have descovered electricity!

Electricity has existed for billions of years, kid. Edison invented the incandescent light bulb. He didn't discover electricity.

All of the things we have today only exist because of optimists that didn't care about how crazy their ideas sounded!

But they knew what they were doing.

My project may not have as big an impact on the world as theirs did,

It won't have an impact at all.

but their kind of detirmination is what I have to do this. Weather it crashes and burns doesn't matter to me, the only thing that matters is getting it done. Success or not.

Let me tell you something, kid. Optimism is great and all, but there is a limit to how far it can take you. And you are waaaay past that limit. At the point you are, this determination of yours is only foolishness.

Also I ONLY use chat-related abrivviations online, NEVER in books or any writing that I do.

Oh please, I've read your fan-fiction. The spelling and grammar is atrocious.

I don't see you guys writing a 287 page fan-fiction in your free time cause you want to

Because we have better things to do with our time. I don't see you volunteering at an animal shelter to help abandoned puppies (Which, unlike writing a fan-fic, actually does some good in the world).

and you guys don't see me making this project happen.

Damn straight.

So what's the point in arguing?

Because it's fun.

I want to do it,

But you can't do it.

when I can't do it,

Fixed for ya, cheif.

weather you like it or not!

Weather? It's raining here, but what does the weather have to do with this?

(And no I wasn't standing on my bed when I wrote this. )

SEARCHING... SEARCHING... ERROR! RELEVANCE TO CONVERSATION NOT FOUND!

Er right, at least you weren't cursing or anything. Honestly it's cause I can't afford to go out to the movies and on dates (if you have any!) every night like you do. As for standing on my bed thing, I was poking fun. Like when (on tv) you see some kid giving a speach standing on a table like a podium. Besides, just cause I don't know what I'm doing that doesn't mean I won't keep learning from experiance. Not the pointless mistakes you seem to keep pointing out. Maybe if you stop and think you might actually post a response I find readible. I know it's no excuse for misspelling something, but I sometimes spell things the way they sound when you "say" it. Like I used to spell neck, as kneck because of the fact k and n can sound the same in a word (when you say it )sometimes. Oh just cause I can't take your garbage, that doesn't mean I can't dish it out. I just happen to have more self-controll over my toung than you. Don't believe me, take note of the underlined part of my post. :p

Originally Posted by zfan121

Er right, at least you weren't cursing or anything. Honestly it's cause I can't afford to go out to the movies and on dates (if you have any!) every night like you do.

You just had to go there, didn't you?

Well, let me tell you something, kid. I don't go on dates. Why? I'll be honest with you: I haven't worked up the courage yet.

BUT! You, kid, are in no position to talk. You have said that you don't even like girls yet. So you probably haven't had a date either. So you go there, even when you haven't done it yourself?

*Sniff sniff*

I smell hypocrisy.

As for standing on my bed thing, I was poking fun. Like when (on tv) you see some kid giving a speach standing on a table like a podium.

First of all, what's a "speach"?

Second of all, that joke... No. Just no.

Besides, just cause I don't know what I'm doing that doesn't mean I won't keep learning from experiance.

You sure aren't learning from this one.

Not the pointless mistakes you seem to keep pointing out.

You mean the truth?

Maybe if you stop and think you might actually post a response I find readible.

...I burst out laughing at this. You are telling me to post a readable response, and yet you can't even type in proper English?

You, sir, have debunked yourself.

I know it's no excuse for misspelling something, but I sometimes spell things the way they sound when you "say" it. Like I used to spell neck, as kneck because of the fact k and n can sound the same in a word (when you say it )sometimes.

I remeber I used to do that. In kindergarten.

Oh just cause I can't take your garbage, that doesn't mean I can't dish it out.

All you're dishing out is more stuff for me to laugh at.

I just happen to have more self-controll over my toung than you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Says the guy who posted a thread which was just being butthurt over IGN's mean old April Fool's Joke.

Don't believe me, take note of the underlined part of my post. :p

You must thing you're so cool saying that, Mr. Hypocrite.

Originally Posted by zfan121

Without Harrison Ford we wouldn't have Porche Corvetts, or any of that [...]

Your ignorance is showing.

...

At any rate, I understand you wanting to make a comic, but let me tell you, it is going to take hard work and dedication. Really. No matter how old you are, projects look dull after approximately a month of work on it, strenuous or no. I'm not saying you can't do it, I'm just saying that it is going to be hard, and it will probably not be recognized. There are probably [relatively serious] Zelda fan comics out there, but I haven't heard of them. Outside of a select few, no one will even know about your creation, and if something is off, i.e., they don't like Ganon's nose, the dialogue, or the story, even fewer will see it for the negative 'publicity,' if you will.

I know I am making a Zelda fanfic here, even making supplements to it because I want to, but it really doesn't have a public face. I just do it because it's fun; but trust me, I'm not getting lots of comments even on the page. You can't want a lot of positive comments, or even comments at all, and do something like this. Like the old adage goes, always expect the worst, and you'll never be disappointed.

Believe me, personally, I doubt this will ever come to fruition, I doubt it will even last a month after you really get working on the meatier parts. Few things do. I'm just warning you: the payoff, if that is what you are hoping for, is really going to let you down.

P.S. Don't expect many good volunteers. Good artists, writers, brainstormers, etc. are usually of the Melancholic temperament, and Melancholics are lazy procrastinators.

Originally Posted by Solus Anonymous

Your ignorance is showing.

Yeah, what would we ever do without Indiana Jones? Anyway, I remember when I made a thread that had similar results as this one. So, I will be serious with you.

This is not, and I repeat not going too be a fun, little gay time with your freinds. (I'm using gay in the old sence of the word, mods) It will be like a large school project, except harder. Know why? Because you will have the knowledge that you can pull the plug at anytime. Trust me it will tempt you to no end. You'll start procrastinating, and eventually it will just go into a plile of things you never finished.

Look, I can understand if you want to become a game programmer, you know going to special classes and all that, but this anime/comic thing is just too much for you right now. Your plate is already full with your fanfics. You really need to work on them. Your plot is basically a rabid fanboy induced pile of crap, your writing style is... Well there really isn't one, and your spelling and grammar needs work. If you're doing this bad on just plain text, you can't possibly hope to make drawings, a script, and a plot.

Take it one step at a time. If I were you I'd wait untill after college or high school (wherever your education ends) to even start thinking about doing this. 'K?

Oh, one more thing that's been pissing me off about you. What's with this in your terms crap!? Do you think you're superior or more inteligent than us?

Originally Posted by The Metal

Yeah, what would we ever do without Indiana Jones? Anyway, I remember when I made a thread that had similar results as this one. So, I will be serious with you.

This is not, and I repeat not going too be a fun, little gay time with your freinds. (I'm using gay in the old sence of the word, mods) It will be like a large school project, except harder. Know why? Because you will have the knowledge that you can pull the plug at anytime. Trust me it will tempt you to no end. You'll start procrastinating, and eventually it will just go into a plile of things you never finished.

Look, I can understand if you want to become a game programmer, you know going to special classes and all that, but this anime/comic thing is just too much for you right now. Your plate is already full with your fanfics. You really need to work on them. Your plot is basically a rabid fanboy induced pile of crap, your writing style is... Well there really isn't one, and your spelling and grammar needs work. If you're doing this bad on just plain text, you can't possibly hope to make drawings, a script, and a plot.

Take it one step at a time. If I were you I'd wait untill after college or high school (wherever your education ends) to even start thinking about doing this. 'K?

Yeah, one step at a time. That sounds good, all I can do now is practice. At least I can think now...hmm. I got something, See how much better it is when you sust say it. Rather than ranting, sure it's a different kind of stoy. It's called Narrative writing by the way. And how do you know what this "crap" is without even reading the whole thing, just ignore the things you find wrong and try to read the whole thing. Ugh, I give up on "explaining" things to you guys. It's not worth the frustration.

Originally Posted by zfan121

Yeah, one step at a time. That sounds good, all I can do now is practice. At least I can think now...hmm. I got something, See how much better it is when you sust say it. Rather than ranting, sure it's a different kind of stoy. It's called Narrative writing by the way. And how do you know what this "crap" is without even reading the whole thing, just ignore the things you find wrong and try to read the whole thing. Ugh, I give up on "explaining" things to you guys. It's not worth the frustration.

WTF??? u are not making much sence...

And I'm criticizing your work. This means I have to look at everything. If I just ignored the parts I didn't like, I'd come up with about four or five lines.

Originally Posted by zfan121

Ugh, I give up on "explaining" things to you guys. It's not worth the frustration.

If you really feel like that, then:

Originally Posted by The Metal

WTF??? u are not making much sence...

And I'm criticizing your work. This means I have to look at everything. If I just ignored the parts I didn't like, I'd come up with about four or five lines.

See, that's the problem. What I'd like people to "critisize" is the STORY itself, I've already had grammar & spelling pointed out countless times! Other things like paragraphing, have been noted thousands of times too. Ugh don't worry, when I say "I'll work on it" then I will. As far as the actual plot...please compare it to my origional, which I will post a "Link" to soon. (what nobody gets that joke yet?) Anyways sense you are so keen on criticizing plots I hope my next one hits closer to home. It's a bit complex but here it is in a nutshell.

In OOT, Link found out that his mother died because of the great war right? In my story (the one I'm currently working on) sense Ganondorf is gone for good, Link sets off to find out about his father and who killed his mother and who started the great war in the first place. But as always in Hyrule things aren't as simple as you might think.

Well I can't reveal any more than that cause that'd spoil the fun in writing it!

I'll start working on the "starter chapter" tonight and I might post it up later. Depending on how well it goes.

And how do you know what this "crap" is without even reading the whole thing, just ignore the things you find wrong and try to read the whole thing. Ugh, I give up on "explaining" things to you guys. It's not worth the frustration.

If people ignore what they find wrong with the work, how is the writer supposed to learn? If someone points out bad grammar, then fix it ASAP. Reading something with terrible grammar becomes tedious. It draws your reader away from the story and on the grammar. They might have to reread a sentence or two to understand what you are trying to say.

Stories with terrible grammar and misspellings are turn offs. First impressions leave a lasting mark. When I read the first chapter of that story, I wanted to stop. It was just terrible.

You WANT people to go medieval ony our stories, disecting it with a microscope. I would LOVE it if someone would do that for my stories. I get a few comments saying how good the story was, but that does little to help me. I thank them for encouraging me, as it is a real pickme up, but only take their comments lightly.

Having your readers ignore what they dislike doesnt benifit you in the slightest. In fact it only gives you an oversized ego.

also the Link pun died years ago. Its also annoying when people point it out.

A Zelda anime isn't needed, there's already a manga. If Nintendo wishes to make an anime in the future, they will and they will get it done by professionals who know what the hell they're doing.

I will now never look at this thread again, because you comparing Avatar to DBZ in art style on the first page.