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Old 06-18-2006, 10:30 AM
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***New Continuity Theory***

*Sharpe’s Continuity theory*
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THE LEGEND OF ZELDA SAGA.

This is not in anyway finalised. I’m just trying to find a line of continuity that gives better reasoning than the Official theory (That there are different Links, Ganondorfs and Zeldas in each game.)


In this theory there is only ONE Link and ONE Ganondorf/Gannon. However there are many Zelda’s. (Each the descendant for the Triforce of wisdom, the throne and the name Princess Zelda)

The whole Zelda series starts when link is born about 8 years before The Wink Waker game. (This However is NOT the beginning of the Zelda time line…!)

Next to follow in the series would be the Phantom Hourglass. Assuming that takes place about 8 months after tWW. After Phantom Hourglass Links Awakening takes place. (Set about a month or two after tWW) Link has a Dream of Koholint Island and his adventure there. Lots of his dream is influenced by his experiences from the games tWW & PH.

The next game to follow would be The Minish Cap, Links quest in the NEW land of Hyrule. Princess Zelda (Tetra) and The ‘king of red lions’ are now ruling over the NEW land of Hyrule (which explains why some new species exist
(The Minish) and other cease to exist (The Zora who have long evolved into the Rito.) This also explains the origins of The Travelling Goron’s from tWW. The ‘far off land’ they came from is now the NEW Hyrule.

Clearly after The Minish Cap the Four Swords (adventure) takes place. (Set a year after tMC) This is the continued story where Vaati is released from his ‘Sword Prison’
he was set in at the end of tMC. and re-imprisoned.

Next to happen in the Zelda series is Oracle of Seasons. (set only months after FS) Link is called to the triforce in Hyrule castle and is Transported to the far off land of Holodrum to save Din ‘oracle of seasons’
After this quest is over Link is returned to ‘New’ Hyrule however the Triforce calls him again and transports him to the distant past in a place called Labrynna. Where he has to save the Nayru ‘oracle of ages’ However when this quest finishes Link is not returned to his own time. He is accidentally sent to ancient Hyrule (the same ancient Hyrule under the sea in tWW). Link is forced to live in this world. However he is accepted by a tribe called the Kokiri who mistake him for one of them.

This leads onto the Ocarina of time. Link is the same legendary hero shown at the beginning of tWW. As a young child Link was hearing stories about himself saving Hyrule.
This Princess Zelda on OoT is NOT Tetra. This is the 1st EVER Zelda. However Tetra is this Zelda’s descendant (as were the Zelda’s in the oracle games)

Ocarina of time is shortly followed by Majora’s Mask which is set a few months after. Link has set out on a journey and found himself in a place called Termina. (Here Link meets the Twinrova twins that he has already defeated in OoA. However MM is set in a time before OoA. Ergo they are still alive.)

This might then lead onto the Twilight princess. However I am unsure how the storyline goes in this game therefore I can’t yet place it in a time line.

I am unsure as to where A link to the past should go. But any help I can get to further evolve this theory would be great.
If there is any feedback or suggestions you want to give, just send me an e-mail.
hyrule_jake@hotmail.co.uk

These are the only games I will include in my time line (for now). This is for several reasons.
1: I feel that The legend of Zelda and Adventure of Link are lacking in relevant storyline because they are the first games. and were developed not for their storyline but as one of Nintendo’s revolutions in game play.
2: I feel that The Wand of Gamelon, and Faces of evil shouldn’t be included. As they were both produced by 3rd party developers therefore have no continuity what so ever.


Theory Developed by Jake Sharpe.

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Old 06-18-2006, 12:31 PM
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Re: ***New Continuity Theory***

Not that I really care a whole heap about timelines, but the Ring Of Red Lions stayed with his flooding castle in TWW. He chose to pass on the legacy of finding a new Hyrule to Link and Tetra.
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Old 06-18-2006, 04:23 PM
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First things first: OOT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE FIRST IN THE TIMELINE!!! Link's Awakening is the DIRECT sequel to ALttP, PH is the direct sequel to TWW and TP comes after MM!
The only things that we know for definate about the Zelda timeline, si that these games go next to each other:

LoZ - AoL
ALttP - LA
OoT - MM - TP
OoS/OoA (these games are interchangeble)
TWW - PH

The Four Swords series is really difficult to place but all we know is that the games go in this order, with possible gaps in between:
TMC - possible gap - FS - possible gap - FSA

Also, FSA is the game that forshadows the Seal War spoken of in the ALttP backstory. Plus, ALttP and LA are prequels to LoZ and AoL with a possible gap in between.

Sorry for the rant and rave, but that timeline was really messed up. It defies the most basic rules of building a timeline, and it is perfectly clear that there are MULTIPLE Links, MULTIPLE Zelda's and one GANONDORF.
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Old 06-18-2006, 05:54 PM
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First things first: OOT HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE FIRST IN THE TIMELINE!!! Link's Awakening is the DIRECT sequel to ALttP, PH is the direct sequel to TWW and TP comes after MM!
The only things that we know for definate about the Zelda timeline, si that these games go next to each other:

LoZ - AoL
ALttP - LA
OoT - MM - TP
OoS/OoA (these games are interchangeble)
TWW - PH

The Four Swords series is really difficult to place but all we know is that the games go in this order, with possible gaps in between:
TMC - possible gap - FS - possible gap - FSA

Also, FSA is the game that forshadows the Seal War spoken of in the ALttP backstory. Plus, ALttP and LA are prequels to LoZ and AoL with a possible gap in between.

Sorry for the rant and rave, but that timeline was really messed up. It defies the most basic rules of building a timeline, and it is perfectly clear that there are MULTIPLE Links, MULTIPLE Zelda's and one GANONDORF.
In his theory, it *is* first in the *timeline* but not first in "Link's" timeline, if that makes any sense. Anyway, there are quite a few large speculations in your theory. The big one is just assuming that Link gets accidentally set back in time. The beginning of the story implies that Link had been there for a very long time and had probably grown up there. The fact that he is very good friends with Sarah makes me think that he was there long enough to build that sort of bond.

There is also what ZeldaGamer21 said above. The King of Hyrule stays in the castle as the waters flush over it so it is assumed that he could not survive. The most realistic part there that I saw was Links Awakening theory but the rest seems too far feched to be real.
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Also, FSA is the game that forshadows the Seal War spoken of in the ALttP backstory. Plus, ALttP and LA are prequels to LoZ and AoL with a possible gap in between.
I really love how you state all this as fact.
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I really love how you state all this as fact.
Heh, exactly the same thing I was thinking. I just decided not to say it. Just so you know ZeldaGamer21, it is not "perfectly clear" that there are "MULTIPLE Links, MULTIPLE Zelda's and one GANONDORF."
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Old 06-18-2006, 06:15 PM
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There are many Links and Zeldas. This is confirmed in The Wind Waker when Ganondorf says that Link is the Hero of Time reborn. Therefore, they're not all the same Link. Sorry, but your theory isn't all that good. It can't hold up against well-known knowledge that already exists. Now, here is a much better timeline that I'm sure everybody (except dual timeline theorists) can agree with.

1. OoT/MM
2. TP
3. TWW/PH
4. TMC
5. FS/FSA
6. ALttP/LA
7. OoA/OoS
8. LoZ/AoL

Each number indicates which Link is in the game(s). Now, I can see that you gave your theory some thought, but it's just not acceptable.
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There are many Links and Zeldas. This is confirmed in The Wind Waker when Ganondorf says that Link is the Hero of Time reborn. Therefore, they're not all the same Link. Sorry, but your theory isn't all that good. It can't hold up against well-known knowledge that already exists. Now, here is a much better timeline that I'm sure everybody (except dual timeline theorists) can agree with.

1. OoT/MM
2. TP
3. TWW/PH
4. TMC
5. FS/FSA
6. ALttP/LA
7. OoA/OoS
8. LoZ/AoL

Each number indicates which Link is in the game(s). Now, I can see that you gave your theory some thought, but it's just not acceptable.
What makes you think there is "many." There could only be two or three and that's not "many." That's a few.
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Old 06-18-2006, 06:51 PM
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What makes you think there is "many." There could only be two or three and that's not "many." That's a few.
Do you even take timeline discussion seriously? I know that there are more than two Links because of time gaps, differences between artwork style, and backstory. By my theory (which is the best you can possibly come up with) there are eight Links.
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Do you even take timeline discussion seriously? I know that there are more than two Links because of time gaps, differences between artwork style, and backstory. By my theory (which is the best you can possibly come up with) there are eight Links.
Wow, I didn't know your word was law. And yes, I do take timeline discussion seriously and yes, the artwork is different but why? Because the artist are different. Same artwork is not a way to come up with a timeline theory. "Serious" Timeline Discussion is when every person understands that no one knows what the timeline is and we're all speculating. You do not "know", MoA, you can only guess.
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Wow, I didn't know your word was law. And yes, I do take timeline discussion seriously and yes, the artwork is different but why? Because the artist are different. Same artwork is not a way to come up with a timeline theory. "Serious" Timeline Discussion is when every person understands that no one knows what the timeline is and we're all speculating. You do not "know", MoA, you can only guess.
But I do know. I know as much as I can, and am guessing as little as possible. And the artwork, however strange it may seem, can actually be used in timeline theories. We have the realistic Links in OoT, MM, and TP. They're all together. We have the uber-cute chibi Links in TWW, PH, TMC, FS, and FSA. Then, we've got my favorite ones, the cartoonish yet still realistic Links in ALttP, LA, OoA, and OoS. Then, we've got a different art style for LoZ and AoL. See? It all makes sense! I don't use it often for making claims, actually, this is my first. It can just be used in order to help show the relations each Link has to the others. See, Link in TWW has no connections to OoT Link, so he's got a drastically different art style. You see? It makes sense.
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But I do know. I know as much as I can, and am guessing as little as possible. And the artwork, however strange it may seem, can actually be used in timeline theories. We have the realistic Links in OoT, MM, and TP. They're all together. We have the uber-cute chibi Links in TWW, PH, TMC, FS, and FSA. Then, we've got my favorite ones, the cartoonish yet still realistic Links in ALttP, LA, OoA, and OoS. Then, we've got a different art style for LoZ and AoL. See? It all makes sense! I don't use it often for making claims, actually, this is my first. It can just be used in order to help show the relations each Link has to the others. See, Link in TWW has no connections to OoT Link, so he's got a drastically different art style. You see? It makes sense.
It pretty much means they just got a new art director. That's about it. This is another case of reading too far into it.
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It pretty much means they just got a new art director. That's about it. This is another case of reading too far into it.
That's a good theorist does. He looks too far into the topic of discussion to pick apart piece by piece to make a theory work. Until he is proven wrong, he has a good point (and like he says, he rarely bases his claim on that fact alone).
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