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Originally Posted by Scoria
True, but can babies object to such a thing? No they can't can they?
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They can't agree, either.
I could cut out your spleen without your objection, if I could manage it without your knowledge. Does that make it my right? Certainly not!
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This is just another abortion topic where people will go back and forth arguing whether if embryo is a baby (person) or if embryo is just an embryo (cell). Personally, however, I absolutely agree and support embryonic stem cell research. To me, an embryo is not a baby (person), it's just a cluster of cells. And like what I've stated before, it does not feel pain, it can't think, it can't live on its own, it doesn't even have internal organs.
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But it is alive, and it is human, and those are two conditions that cannot be disputed. You are also alive and human, if I am not mistaken. Does having internal organs determine whether or not something is a human life? No. Does feeling pain determine whether or not something is a human life? No. And, if you didn't notice, NO organism lives on its own. They all require nourishment from an outside source.
That makes you very similar, in all respects, to that innocent little life you claim as being "just a cluster of cells." For all intents and purposes, you are also "just a cluster of cells," yours just happen to be larger in mass and more developed than those of the embryo.
Once upon a time, Africans were not considered humans, either. But the science of the matter cannot be disputed.
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Because apparently, human cells cannot be used as experiments but other types of cells can.
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Go ahead and use human cells. Just don't take human lives to do so.
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the thing is, embryonic stem cells can turn into any cell in the body; adult stem cells can only turn into certain types.
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Not so.
"Adult stem cells. Adult stem cells are unspecialized, can renew themselves, and can become specialized to yield all of the cell types of the tissue from which they originate. Although scientists believe that some adult stem cells from one tissue can develop into cells of another tissue, no adult stem cell has been shown in culture to be pluripotent."
This means that you cannot turn ANY strain of cells into ANY OTHER strain. Not that there is NO strain of cells that you cannot turn another strain into.
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"Although embryonic stem cell research has not yet produced similar results, many scientists believe embryonic stem cell research holds promise over time because of the capacity of embryonic stem cells to develop into any tissue in the human body."
Although worded to endorse embryonic stem cell research, this hints only towards "promise" and "capacity," not "ability."
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You'd choose a line of cells that HAS NOT reaped results over one that HAS?
Intelligence at its best.