Okay. First, I'll answer the title: Catholics believe in Jesus Christ as the Saviour, therefore they are Christians. Now for the rest of it.
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Originally Posted by Bobslob Where does the bible mention the word "Trinity?" (For that matter, why does it matter whether the bible explicitly mentions it?) |
If holy water isn't mentioned in the Bible (which it isn't), where is the basis for it? Answer: to my knowledge, there isn't one.
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Originally Posted by Bobslob If we can pray to the saints... and they are in heaven, and thus undeniably righteous people, why not do it? After all, the fervent prayer of a rightous person is very powerful. And who is more righteous than Mary, who was graced to be the Ark of the Covenant in the New Testament, carrying our God? The lady for whom Jesus willingly performed a miracle at Cana at her asking (John 2). But whatever it is, don't think of it as either/or, it's not! No Catholic neglects praying to God. |
How about because the Lord told us the way in which we should pray, and it has nothing to do with anyone but us, the Lord, and God?
"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name..." - Matt. 6:9. You probably know the rest.
Just pointing out, though, I have no problem with praying on behalf of someone else - but praying to someone whose already dead to put in a good word?
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Originally Posted by Bobslob Christ refers to the sinner who "will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins. Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? "He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire" (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering ("fire") there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage. |
Not true. LDS doctrine also explains this, to my complete satisfaction. Plus, we go into a little bit more detail than this.
Oh, and btw - a righteous man's works will
always fail the test. That is why we need the Atonement.
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Originally Posted by Bobslob Then, of course, there is the Bible’s approval of prayers for the dead: "In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin" (2 Macc. 12:43–45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. That means some people must be in a third condition, at least temporarily. |
Uh...excuse me, but where did this quote come from? I've never heard of a "Book of Maccabee" before, let alone two of them.
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Originally Posted by Bobslob Jesus establishes a Church. The Church has Apostles. It also has an Apostle that is a leader. |
I wasn't aware the Catholic church
had Apostles. Is the Pope considered to be one? And who else would be? Just curious.
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Originally Posted by Bobslob "Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven" (Matt. 18:18). |
And something that the Lord said to one of His Apostles would apply to every Catholic priest in the world...why?
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Originally Posted by Bobslob "For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can." Matthew 19:12 |
A eunuch is something a bit different to just someone who is celibate, Bobslob. They normally have pretty high voices. Just thought I'd point that out.
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Originally Posted by DarkFire360 So, Mary was definitly not anything in an exalted position. She gave birth to Jesus. Other than that, she had no reason to be exalted by the Roman Catholics. |
Agreed.
If any of my comments have annoyed/offended anyone, then I apologise for it. I have simply stated my viewpoint.