Right dude? So glad I'm done with it, and no one gave me grief for cheating.. yet, lol. I just wanted the game to end too, lol I know I could of beat him the hard way if I wanted to, and that's good enough for me, lol. I just started A Link to the Past today. Fought Agarhim (don't know how to spell his name) and he sent me to the dark world on top of a pyramid, now I'm in the dark dungeon or whatever it's called. And saying that jumping for ironnuckles is cheating is crazy. lol. That would be like saying it's cheating to use strategy or any kind of technique to get the edge in a shooter game or something. I think the game is a amazing challenge even doing it the "cheating" way, I'm sure Miyamoto wouldn't consider it cheating, lol it's using what the game put in it.