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Old 07-31-2009, 10:41 AM
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Re: "Prolonged" Wars???

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Originally Posted by langford View Post
Why would you think they had not established their kingdom when they had been there such a long time?
Because, by the time of Ganondorf's execution, there is no evidence to suggest that they have been there for very long, just as there is no evidence that they had already become the Twili. It's all speculation on your part.

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There were no recently eradicated races in OOT,
The Shiekah. I don't believe them to be Twili, but they were almost completely eradicated by the time of OoT.

Also, how do you know there were no recently eradicated races? We don't see these races because they were recently eradicated. It's impossible to say there were no recently eradicated races, because we have no way of knowing that. That's because they were recently eradicated.

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And nothing of the cut scenes in TP indicated that the Twilli had been so short in advance of Ganondorf.
Correct. Just as nothing of the cutcenes in TP indicated that the Twili had already been there for a long period of time. We never see them until after Zant's attack on the Twili Royal Family.

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Unless you are combining theories into this about the missing Gerudo tribe into this
I'm not combining anything about the Gerudos into this. I don't believe for a second that the Gerudo are in any way related to the Twili. The only clue is the altered Gerudo symbol on Zant's cloak, which was there even before he met Ganon. That's it.

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there is no way for it to be so recent. There is no reason to combine the events, and they make no sense combined.
Both events were wars fought over the Triforce by the tribes of Hyrule after word of the Sacred Realm started to spread. The backstories are similar enough that you can almost ignore the very little detail that the spiritual stones were in the families for generations. The developers likely didn't think that they would have to include the pendants as a story element for TP's backstory, so that inconsistency can be somewhat handwaved by saying "they just didn't care."

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The interlopers would have had no way into the sacred realm without the pendants, which had been way out of reach for many generations before the events of OOT.
So what? They didn't succeed in getting into the Sacred Realm anyway. They were stopped by the Light Spirits. Lanayru simply tells us that they hoped to establish dominion over the Sacred Realm. The pendants are irrelevant in this sense. Sure, they wouldn't have gotten into the Sacred Realm without the pendants, but that hardly matters, because they didn't get into the Sacred Realm anyway.
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