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Originally Posted by rageagainst
this is not a good idea, first and foremost, Link is supposed to be an extension of YOU, hence his name is Link (that's the official reason for his stupid name  ). If Link becomes his own autonomous character, you would lose a big part of that personal feel of the game, which is signature to LoZ.
Though I understand where you guys are coming from, when I first played OoT I always thought Link mirrored my own personality (he was mostly a reactive character who only did things proactive when you were controlling him, the things he did that were out of my control, I would have done anyway, because when I played OoT I was a soft spoken person and was very passive), but when I played TP, sometimes Link felt annoying at how weak he acted, and how he let people walk all over him.
Its because we ourselves have personally grown to be more forward, but making Link the same way isn't a good idea. Link needs to be a reactive character that we choose what he should proactive on, so that we can put ourselves in his shoes. He shouldn't take incentive (in things people naturally wouldn't take incentive in) on his own, which is why I think they made helper characters more and more important (your helper is taking incentive, not you).
However, Link IS an adult now, so I think they'll give the character more confidence. |
You contradicted yourself. If he is supposed to be an extension of us then why develop his character at all? And this is all your opinion, I don't like the fact that you think your opinion is universal.
By the way, just so you know, even with the way Link is now I don't have "personal feel" to the game. And I can bet that a lot of people feel the same way including Ganonslayer2000.
I find it actually quite stupid that anyone would argue that Link should be our extension. Why? Because no one can feel attached to a character that is an "EXTENSION." It isn't right for a character to just stand there and everyone else not even notice him. Its a waste of character space. I don't feel that I AM Link. I am not... clearly... and I'm not going to pretend to be a character I'm not. Instead I want to learn about the character of Link. What
TP did well was, do exactly this but only when it came to the cutscenes not involving Midna (where she hid in Link's shadow the way she should have ALWAYS) like the scenes with saving Colin, the ones involving the children/Illia etc. Those scenes directly involved Link and you sort of get a glimpse into his development... but not really. He failed absolutely in any important scene that involved Midna.
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Originally Posted by Ganonslayer2000
I never saw any of the 3D Links as me ever. To me Link is no more or less an avatar than Mario is IMO. I never bought into this silent protagonist automatically equals avatar nonsense since Mario is a silent protagonist and is never considered as an avatar. I think the reason OOT, WW, and TP Link are never portrayed as Cassanova/Romeo types is because their in game character/personalities don't fit that concept at all in the first place. I think the new Wii Zelda game with a more mature Link with less boyish innocence will make more sense to having Link finally paired up with someone IMO. |
Also they need to take an art style where he doesn't look like a happy little mushroom kid. Because thats what he looked like in
TP - a happy mushroom kid and he didn't have that serious quality about him that he had in the artwork.
And yes, I never saw them as me either. Which I explained above.
If Miyamoto thinks his games are going to keep being successful by continuing to keep Link simple as "EXTENSION" then his games will FAIL. TP is the strongest example of this. Why did something feel missing? Apart from side-quests, it was Link's personality and development was missing, as was Zeldas and Ganondorfs. TP could have been achieved full success if Nintendo put in the work to making him a developed character.