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Old 06-28-2009, 10:46 PM
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Question How does the SW work out on a CT-Placement?

["Oh no's! A SW Topic!"]

Simply put: I'm seeking insight to whether the IW is still OoT, and whether it can work out on the CT or not; or even if the SW is still intended to be OoT for that matter...

Rarely do I ever ask for help when it comes to research, but this time I really need direct explanations to broaden my perspective. I've been doing some intense research on the subject for a time now, not really intending to present an argument because I haven't reached a steady conclusion. So I'll even help gather/present resources that need be set on the table when and if necessary.

Here's how I'd like the participants to approach the matter per canon-concept:

State of the Triforce
- This categorizes anything relating to the Triforce; current position, holders, etc.

State of Ganon
- This categorizes anything relating to Ganon or Ganondorf; his title, history, motives, etc.

State of the Sages/Maidens
- This categorizes anything relating to the Sages/Maidens; titles, history, motives, etc.

Nature of the Sacred Realm/Dark World
- This categorizes anything relating to the nature of the Sacred Realm and the Dark World.
Note:
Because this term varies in other names such as, “Evil Realm” and “Dark Realm”, and its specific nature is disputable in other titles, this category can be labeled simultaneously along with the Twilight Realm in some contexts cases.

Current Developer Intent
- Self-explanatory


I find these four canon-concepts to be key factors in which people bring up consistencies or inconsistencies to shed light on the nature of the SW in the timeline. Preferably, I want people to hit each canon-concept within its own terms of evidence - supporting that topic alone - until we've reach the point of repetitiveness/circular logic. Once that happens then we can move on to the second category and so forth.

On a personal note: I want to point out that I now comprehend and find it unethical to use canonical elements from another canon-concept to prove one's own side of an argument, especially when one cannot find any more evidence to support his or her bias in the initial concept being debated through. What should validate a theories plausibility is the end result of how many strong points (canon-concepts listed above) weigh more in on a certain perspective (out of the four in this case).

In order for this process to work, people have to be willing to withdraw, and/or admit defeat when they cannot find more canon to support his or her's side. And by one doing so, the victor of an argument should be a good sport about it in return.

I'm beginning to understand why certain people go off on how ZU debates and theorizes; some true, and some blown out of perspective due to the increase of new participants (no offense newbies). But no matter the insufferable brow-beatings over that, we need to keep things in perspective, storyline element by storyline element, and be mutually patience with one another. Lets try not to sidetrack each other with interrelating canonical elements which do not pertain to storyline or the current canon-concept being debated through.

~LOZ H~

Now... First thing to be debated:

State of the Triforce

Consistencies to be made: Ready, set, GO!
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You can have a timeline, or you can have canon, but not both . If one strictly follows the strictest form of canon, the timeline is ultimately destroyed. On the other hand, if one strives to create the most coherent timeline, the canon must be broken by corollary. It is the unfortunate world in which Nintendo has placed us, and now it is up to decide which road we shall follow: the road of truth where nothing can be created, or the road of imagination where nothing can be destroyed.
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