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Originally Posted by The Arbitrator
OH COME ON. If you have a view you don't have to be tolerant of people with different views just to look like a nice guy, because all you're doing is giving them validity by respecting their view, which gives them some confidence in thinking that you don't have conviction in your own argument. You don't need the moral high ground to win an argument.
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Where did I say you had to like the books?
However, there's no harm in being polite and, quite frankly, the ludicrous level of insulting, abusing, and just generally being utter pricks and asses to people who enjoy them has finally made me decide that enough is enough.
You don't enjoy a book series? Good for you. Have a cookie. Now stop telling everyone about it. Don't read the books. Post a review highlighting the flaws, whatever. But the bashing of people who like it is utterly pointless.
It's just a more acceptable sort of bullying.
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I would gladly buy the books, just to read them thoroughly, JUST so I can have some basis to my critique, but that would mean having to give Stephanie Meyer, a member of the Mormon church which funded Proposition 8, money, which would mean that I would be indirectly funding Proposition 8 by buying her fiction.
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Or you could go to a library.
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Fortunately I was able to avoid this by looking regularly over the shoulder of someone I know who was reading one of them in the pub for whatever reason, and what I did read did not only confirm what I'd heard about the badness of the "supernatural high school" plot, but bad writing ability generally. You may be writing FOR fourteen year olds, but that is no excuse to be writing LIKE one.
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It's fiction. The sole point of it is to create something that other people enjoy. If they enjoy it then why bother saying more than that you don't and explaining your issues with it?
Now, some apparently valid grounds to criticize the series is the way it portrays an ideal romance, which could be harmful, but if it's main sin is that it's poorly written, well, so what? Lots of books are poorly written. I can see hundreds of them at any bookstore, thousands at any library. No one says people who read those must be idiots, or whatever.
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It's generally not the fiction itself that is hated, but the fandom. The books wouldn't attract so much hate if it wasn't held up as a literary masterpiece to begin with.
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And what members of the fandom have posted here?
And why hate the fandom? What've they done to you?