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Originally Posted by Sabbo
The universe we have at the moment has been structured (or rather, not structured) so that BAers have as much freedom in their writing as they need. I suggest that if you want a structured universe, you consider looking for a second place you can do RPs at other than the Escapists' Haven.
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I agree with this.
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Originally Posted by VenomousNinja
I'm not saying total structure, people will still have the freedom that they have usually, however, there will be pre-established buildings, cities, NPCs, companies, etc. That can be used in all the RPs taking place in that universe, and these pre-established elements will be able to link two RPs or characters together so that they mix, while both of them still being independent.
Think of a city of gods. Each god can be linked together or learn about one another through things like the newspaper, radio, TV, internet, libraries, work, etc. etc. But they have the freedom they want to go off and create new cities and such, but be able to return to that one city with all it's people whenever.
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I like these ideas.
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Originally Posted by et cetera.
uh, we can't have a second universe until we establish the first one.
which we haven't.
the "universe" that BA events occur in is actually a disjointed amalgamation of countless number of universes, one for each character's story line.
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I almost agree with this, except that you can have a second universe simply by stating that people from the first universe can not enter the second universe, (unless they are a copy, branching off on a completely different story-line based off of the RP’s he undertakes.) and that universe two has different aspects that are not included in U1.
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Originally Posted by Sabbo
"okay; it's done. let's use it now"?
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What VN is trying to say is that you would never say this. Universe two would be constantly expanding. New, preset, intricate wolds would be cool.
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Originally Posted by Sabbo
And anyway, what would happen if there was an event such as what happened in the RP Chinatown Rush? One of the intricately crafted cities would be completely destroyed, ruining much hard work.
Suffice to say, your idea... it's just not good to add in directly alongside an already existing universe. If you started from scratch in a place separate from the BA, your idea would be better, but we have no use for a second universe when we already have one here.
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That could happen, and it would be awesome in some ways, as it would affect other places, and vicariously effect other character... And I agree with the second part.
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Originally Posted by VenomousNinja
There is one huge advantage to my idea, alongside many smaller advantages:
A) It would give all characters common ground. They would all be able to navigate the streets of a certain city, even if they haven't been in an RP together.
B) This BA universe would have a concrete past that is shared by all. It would change the way how all characters view things and how they act.
C) Most things that happen in one RP would affect others happening in another RP.
D) All RPs would be connected and would be happening at the same time, thus allowing an outside force to have an inpact in an RP.
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I like these ideas. They make perfect sense. Its much like having the dome effect so many characters, except it is done on a larger and more varied scale. Not a bad idea at all.
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Originally Posted by Sabbo
Your suggestion would doubtlessly need a GM to make it work properly (and consistently), and the required control said GM would need to have is far beyond what any current councillor has, or likely would want to have.
And what of characters who have integral parts of their storyline attached to places already made canon in the current universe (eg. Aikomira & Z have both attached their characters to Rubato, a place she made), or mine, who could theoretically move between the two universes at will?
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A GM would be handy, or maybe just a council... =P
About the storylines attached to places already made canon, I supose you could have the same place exist in U2, but it would have no attachment at all to U1 once it was made. And you could always make your own town in U2, or worlds, with as little or much detail as you wish.
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Originally Posted by VenomousNinja
A) Not necessarily. Just a little guidance, not like an overbearing GM.
B) I said that there would be established places, not that you couldn't make places yourself.
C) Your character wouldn't be able to move between the two universes at will, since it is completely seperate from the other(making it impossible to traverse from one to the other) and the timeline is different(meaning your character's history would be screwed up badly and your whole character would change if you even tried it.)
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The two universes would be different in the sense that theoretically, there could be a Tera existing in both universes. So Sobbo, if you insist on having your character travel between the two universes, (which you could just...
Not do, for the sack of making things much less complicated) Then Tera could potentially meet an exact copy of herself. This is a possibility, and VN is actually wrong in his reasoning for thinking that it is not, except that his reasons do apply to almost any other character. And of course, he could always make it a rule in the second universe that the two universes shall be separated no matter what, and violators will be severely frowned upon.
The bottom line is! Great idea. It would go great with a website that is NOT
ZU. And! Too much work. Not worth it. I spend too much time on my current characters with they’re current stories that are severely underdeveloped to spend any more time working on a completely different set of characters with a completely unrelated in any way storyline.
Humm... I actually do wish the BA was a
little more like the universe 2 VN describes.
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Originally Posted by Sabbo
A) I can't dispute this any further. That doesn't mean I believe that though.
B) Then what's the point of the established places? We already have places now, so making more just for the sake of making them is pointless.
C) I realise that it's entirely pointless to argue this due to this universe 2 never going to exist, but... meh. My characters are the only iterations of themselves which exist in any universe, and this started to be true the moment they started using the void portals as transport, so no, their histories would not be different.
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Oh wait... Meh, my other points still stand. And the underlying reasons for having a U2 go beyond characters being able to move too and from it as they please. Therefor, Tera wouldn’t be able to enter it. You could however, create a different Tera for U2 (who, in turn, would not be able to enter U1, because they are not connected... AT ALL. They are two different books that shall never be crossed. Like two writers writing about the same character, who never knew eachother.) with a new, developing storyline. That is the point of it.
There we go. That’s what I’ve been trying to say. =]