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Old 06-29-2008, 09:46 PM
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Re: The Romance Thread IV: The Debate Continues

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Originally Posted by gliderpilotgirl View Post
We get closure for everyone else...Ruto and Saria are with the Sages, Malon is obliviously happy with Epona, yet for Zelda and Link, it feels incomplete until they reunite. I will always love OoT best because of the feeling of satisfaction I got when he returned to her. ( A lover returning to a beloved is a huge romantic plot
For me, the only one that seems really and truly “closed” is Saria. Despite personal opinions, I view all of the others as distinct possibilities. As for the ending of the game, in which Link returns to the courtyard to see Zelda, I’ve always viewed it as a scene where Link was “reporting back” to Zelda. Remember, she was the one who assigned him the task of collecting the stones in the first place. He may have seen it as his duty to return to her now that his adventure was finished. The game ends with Zelda with kind of an “Oh, you’re back!” expression on her face. I suppose this could be taken romantically, but I’ve always viewed it more of a “So? How did it go? Did you succeed?” moment, myself.

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In the interest of keeping this argument going, I'll just add this. If Link did have feelings for Ruto, I can see him truthfully denying feelings for Zelda. However, I don't think the game would leave any question in our minds if that was the case.
Nintendo would still leave it open, most likely. They’ll put in hints, but I don’t think that they’re ever going to make it 100% certain what happened. If they did that, it would ruin the immersive experience of the game, as we would no longer “be” Link. This is the very same thing I don't like about many games developed by other companies; HALO, for example. As good as the games themselves may be, the characters are too fully developed and the story leaves little room for interpretation, so the game lacks that "total immersion" feeling.

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Originally Posted by gliderpilotgirl View Post
To address Zelda directly, obviously her fighting skill and archery can be used, but she shares other similarities. For one, to look at her. OoT Link and Zelda are similar in looks so you can't conclude anything but she looks somewhat like him, at least the art of his OoT version. She's also wearing brown boots and has her hair tied like one of his caps. If I wanted to imagine Link's daughter with Zelda, I'd imagine her to look exactly like TP Zelda. I'd also imagine her personality to match, TP Zelda seems much more introverted and serious, much like the Link of OoT and MM.
Hmm, interesting... I had certainly noticed the sword and archery skills, but I had never considered the boots. This could be a connection, but even so, there is no guarantee that they are the same pair. As for her hair being tied back in the shape of Link’s cap, the same can be said for Rutela’s head fin. If you look, the fin’s fluke is about halfway up, and very small; and the rest of it is long, smooth, and pointed at the end. All in all, it is very similar in shape to Link’s cap.


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Originally Posted by firsttsurugi View Post
Remember, OoT/MM Link's adult mind is never actually revealed, so you can't put infidelity past him just because you believe that he was a noble person who only had room in his heart for one. In other words, he's a guy, he doesn't think with his heart, he thinks with a certain body part a little further down south!
Actually, this makes a lot of sense! However, as many people have already said, I view Link as a good-natured heroic type at heart. Whatever brief glimpses we’ve been given of his personality have shown him to be very kind and caring towards others. Even with maturity and, the various...impulses...that come with it, I don’t believe that Link would develop like that. However, were it true, it would explain a lot, and possibly put an end to this debate...

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Originally Posted by Sirius B View Post
Also, a lot of people would find an intimate relation between the two somewhat revolting. This is because Ruto's appearance, while generally "humanoid," is too different from human appearance to trigger what we consider attractive. The same might go for Link, too, and I can't see him being physically attracted to her when she's so radically different from the people he's seen before.
This is because they are viewing the situation with real-world logic. If this game took place in a realistic setting, I too would most likely be disgusted by the idea. However, it is important to remember that Hyrule exists in a fantasy world; just the fact that a people like the Zoras exist in the first place is proof of that. Judging by the Treasure Chest Lady’s actions in MM, it is clear that Hylians and Zoras do find one another attractive on occasion. It involves a considerable amount of suspension of disbelief, but it is an important point to keep in mind, nonetheless.