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Originally Posted by zenox24
Oh be quiet do you go to willow creek... no, didn't think so.
you know what just because job was being hit by satan doesn't mean that satan has free control over squat! he had to go to God first, ask for permission to test one of Gods own faithfull followers and even then satan had to follow a list of rules on what not to do to him (Job). one of those rules that we know is, to not acctually touch Job himself.
And for all you athiest who don't believe that there is a God, Please inform me on How you believe we all got here... i want to see what you've got to say.
oh and by the way earth sage, going with what you're saying i guess i can say that your satan and im God but does that realy mean a thing... unless i've created a universe or something, no (unilke God himself who created us)
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So what? I don't owe him anything for creating me. I can say "thanks" but I don't owe an eternal debt of worship. Just like I wouldn't owe you anything if you gave me a gift, beyond "thanks" and perhaps returning a favour later on down the line. This favour, of course, not being dedicating my life to you.
Arguments are all throughout this thread as to your other issues, and no, I don't go to Willow Creek because firstly I don't live anywhere near the place, and secondly I wouldn't want to go to church there even if I did. The preacher would be telling me exactly the same as every other preacher, just in a different way.