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Originally Posted by mohammedali
Again, the thread's not supposed to be destructive. It's supposed to find out the reasoning behind some peoples placements, which as I pointed out before, seems to be there because it can be rather than should be.
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I'm sure it was not your intention to be destructive. But it turned out that way.
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I agree with you that we an alternative needs to be provided, which is why I'm saying a post OoT works better. Here are the reasons:
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Yes, if we find an alternative then we are productive.
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- Kaebora Gaebora is still around (and these are the only 2 games he's in)
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Mhh, except for LA and MM, but that doesn't really count.
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- The Gorons are still living on Death Mountain just like before, as well as other OoT creatures like the Dodongos
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True. But I think that is secondary, what we should pay more attention is how the story o the two games connect.
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- The Zora's a still around as they were in OoT (at FSA's release, FSA and OoT were the only games to have Zoras).
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Pardon me, but that is just outright wrong. Every Zelda game has Zoras, LoZ, AoL, ALttP, PH, OoX have the evil versions.
And OoT, TP, OoA, and MM have the kind Zoras.
so the Zoras are a bad connector between FSA and OoT.
- The Gerudos are still in the desert, and have clearly been there some time.
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- Ganondorf is still in his human form just like in OoT, except for a couple of points:
- The Gerudos accept he should have been their protector/leader (as he was in OoT), but he isn't.
- Ganondorf was largely expelled due to his evil nature.
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Again that works.
This last point helps give us a clear placement for FSA. It suggests FSA comes some point after OoT (could be many many years).
So here it were it get's tricky, all those things you have mentioned are weak connectors, exept for maybe Ganondorfs story.
And by many many years you are suggesting that Ganondorf is very old at that time. He probably would have died.
Those connections are based on things like characters, which are often reused in Zelda.
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Ganondorfs situation suggests he was shunned by his own tribe when he was found out to be evil. The perfect point for this could be argued a failed invasion of Hyrule during OoT child ending. This would lead in perfectly to the start of FSA.
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Except, that Ganondorf is absolute unknown in FSA, suggesting that there was no such thing as an invasion.
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Originally Posted by Gerudo elder
I see... You came on word
of the maidens, eh?
Yes, this Ganondorf you
speak of is a member of
the Gerudo.
But his intent is unknown to
me. He has flouted the law
and fled for the pyramid.
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He fled from the village to the desert, because of recent event.
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Originally Posted by a Gerudo
Welcome. It's been a long
time since we've seen any
travelers here.
This village is our home. We
are the dwellers in the
desert, the Gerudo tribe.
The village is in a bit of
an uproar contending with
a man who broke our laws.
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This suggest, that Ganondorf was an inhabitant of the Gerudo village until recently were he left for the pyramids and broke their laws.
Which seems to be the reason the Gerudos refere to him as a criminal.
They watched him with concern as he grew more twisted each year, but the event that made them abandon him has happened recently.
All the other points mentioned further support that the world has not changed so much between OoT and FSA, making this idea more plausible.
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So - That's my reasoning behind this placement. OoT followed by FSA some time later.
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And you suggest that it preceeds TP.
In TP Ganon, the leader of a band of thieves was after the Triforce, he was then sealed in the Twilightrealm.
This means that he either brakes free inbetween FSA and TP or that FSA tells the same events as the backstory of TP which is impossible.
It's not that the post WW placement is issue free, but in this case we have to look which placement has less quirks.