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Old 05-06-2008, 12:27 PM
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Re: FSA is not Post-Flood

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Originally Posted by mohammedali View Post
Before continuing, please note the following:
I'm not trying to debate how WW can come between OoT and FSA. With enough fanfiction, you can justify anything... The only thing is that it's all extremely unlikely.
I like to hear your fanfictions about how the geography magicly changed and how all people from OoT are suddendly gone or don't remember Link (this includes KP and Talon and Malon)
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Here's a few points you should be trying to prove instead.
1) Come up with actual evidence that FSA comes after WW. This should not be based on theories like "I think FSA is after aLttP, and I think aLttP is after WW, therefore I've proven it" - That stuff doesn't work at all.
I think there was allready a lot mentioned in this thread, placing it after TP does not work and paceing it before TP (inbetween OoT and MM I suppose?) does also not work because of the issues that were allready adressed

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2) Explain why ideas like Gorons, Gerudos etc etc all being displaced then ending up exactly the same place is more logical than the flood coming after (or seperate) to FSA.
All of the can be explained by natural enviroments, e.g. Gorons are mountain dwellers-> they return to the mountains.

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3) Just for fun, let's hear what crazy lie you've told yourself so you can ignore the Kings quote in WW that Hyrule is washed away and that a new land will not be Hyrule.
See above my dear.



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So the mountain that matches the placement and looks just like Death Mountain is a completely different mountain that magically appeared since OoT... OK... Interesting card to play...
Ever heard of Death Mountain range? "The" Death mountain is by far not the only vulcanic mountain in Hyrule and the surrounding area.
Oh Dragonroost being DM also dosn't really add or take away from the theories we are discussing here.
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But isn't PH a dream?
Certainly not unless it is a shared dream by Link, Tetra, Lineback and Jolene. It might however be a different "realm" of some sort, the whole thing is a bit vague.


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Just because you place it post flood, doesn't mean it's evidence for such a baseless theory.
FSA has very strong bonds to ALttP, it most certainly has to go were ALttP goes, werever that is in your personal opinion.


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So a pre TP placement would be perfect then.
Not at all, read some posts in this thread.
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Given that the Triforce is never mentioned in TP, does that come after WW too? Thought not.
I'll give you that, it is however mentioned by Zelda, the lightspirits and a very dominant symbol in TP. In FSA it is absolutly unheard of and the only triforce symbol we see is at the end of the game.

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Like OoT? Seeing the trend?
Pardon? OoT Ganondorf is known to Zelda and the King of Hyrule, I also remember some townspeople and KP talking about him, could be wrong though.
In FSA he is unknown to Zelda and the Maidens and KP, the best informed people in Hyrule.


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Again, something based on your personal beliefs and ideas. Not backed by anything.
If FSA is on the childtimeline after OoT, the tMC has to be first there is no way around that. I allready said that tMC being first is a whole differnt story, which has been debated over and over.
Where do you place tMC if not first?

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Fine. So Ganondorf (which you mentioned yourself) shoud be the same in OoT and FSA. It's generally shown that Ganondorf is always the same person, so why would this be any different all of a sudden?
Because the game makes it sound like he has been reborn to the Gerudo Tribe.
I also said that we should not assume people being the same person unless it's explicitly stated or strongly hinted at (as it was the case with OoT, TP and WW Ganondorf)


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So what happened to the Rito that occupied the only Mountain there is?
Who knows? What happend to the Kokiri inbetween OoT and FSA in your theory? Unseen I guess, that works for the Rito as well.

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But there's a critical difference. In OoT they are ruled by Ganondorf. In FSA Ganondorf doesn't make it as the ruler. In OoT, of course they lock intruders - do you think Ganondorf would ask them to welcome people
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the problem is that he allready is their ruler before OoT even starts. While in FSA it sounds like he was never really made their king or was abbandond pretty early. The term king is by the way never used in FSA it's "guardian", sounds more like a military rank or something to me.

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Look at the quote from FSA:
Gerudo: “Once every 100 years, a special child is born unto my people.
That child is destined to be the mighty guardian of the Gerudo and the desert.
But this child, its heart grew twisted with every passing year.”
This is what I meant, his heart growing twisted was noticed by the Gerudo, which would probably result in them choosing not to make them their king. And again, king isn't even mentioned in FSA.

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So it's clear that Ganondorf was supposed to be the ruler of the Gerudos (just like he was in OoT), but he was clearly rejected due to his twisted heart. This could be a look at what happened when he failed to gain the power of the Triforce in OoT, and the Gerudos rejected him as a leader.
Given the nature of the Gerudo in FSA they should have abbandoned him the second he attacked Hyrule if not earlier.
Growing twisted is a process not an event.
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Again, random fanfic.
Them being evil as opposed to OoT is certainly no fanfic.

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My point was simply that the set up seems remarkably similar to OoT and placing WW in the middle seems counter-intuitive.
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