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Old 04-15-2008, 12:31 AM
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Re: The Most Tolerant Era of All?

EDIT: Once again, Virtigo says it better than anyone could think of saying it.

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Originally Posted by Rhalen View Post
For an example of what I'm talking about:
YouTube - Philadelphia Eleven Arrested at OutFest 2004
Max sentence of 47 years in jail for singing Gospel music on the sidewalk, and they were charged with ethnic crimes. Ethnic crimes!? Since when is sexual orientation included in ethnicity?
You're being very disingenuous here. You know they weren't arrested for "singing Gospel music on the sidewalk." They were arrested for remarks they were making (like when they were shouting at the homosexuals, telling them they were going to hell), blocking the street, and disobeying police orders.

Obviously they had no chance of getting 47 years. It really bugged me to see reports of "CHRISTIANS FACE 47 YEARS IN PRISON." Very few people ever get the maximum sentence, and that's assuming they're found guilty. These charges, of course, were dismissed.

Lastly, "ethnic crimes" of course doesn't always refer specifically to ethnicities. Harassing people because of their race, religion, nationality, gender, etc. also falls under "ethnic crimes."

I support their right to protest, but try to be honest when you report these things.

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Islam studies required in California district
Yeah, that's right, required Muslim education. I wonder, why can't christians do this?
They can. It's called comparative religion. Obviously this school took it too far with its role-playing (which is a very good way of teaching, for non-controversial things at least). But to label this as intolerance is ridiculous. The school did this after 9/11 so students would actually get an idea of who these people are. I had to learn about Islam in my Christian school. I don't know if you're trying to make yourself look like a victim or what, but we teach these things for tolerance. They were not taught to follow Islam; they were taught what Muslims follow.

The article you linked to wasn't entirely accurate. The role-playing was only done in one school; it wasn't required in the curriculum.

I agree, though, that the school was quite stupid in taking it to that extent.

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Originally Posted by Blizziga
I've said it once, I'll say it again, and I'll probably say it a million times over:

"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
I couldn't help notice what a stunning piece of literature that is. We quote quotes because we really admire the brilliant use of language. We use them when we could never say it better ourselves. I really admire Michael Savage's ability to make something so quote-able while leaving out any resemblance wit, elegance, cleverness, class, humour, and hell - even truthfulness. It's just his opinion to the bare minimum, like it should be. Screw eloquence. The best part about it, and I hope this wins him the Pulitzer, is how specific it is. For example, I could never just say, "Republicanism is a mental disorder," because that would be crazy. Clearly Savage has said what nobody else dares to say.


Apologies for the sarcasm, and for contributing nothing of substance. But hey, it's the quote I'm attacking, not you And yes, I will point out how absolutely ridiculous that quote is every time you post it.
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