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Now, this just pisses me off. Are we really that tolerant? Yeah right! Now, have fun ripping me to shreds, as I know you probably will.
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Ah good, you're bent over and have assumed the position. I have the lube in hand already.
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Originally Posted by Rhalen
Well, I'm sick of America. We claim to live in the most tolerant of times. People love to brag about having gay friends, and such. We love to tout about our great acceptance of those who were shunned and considered parriahs. Everyone just wants to be accepted afterall. Well, that's great... for them!
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Cool.
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Originally Posted by Rhalen
In an attempt to combat people's prejudice, the Christian citizen has been cast aside.
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Rich.
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Originally Posted by Rhalen
For an example of what I'm talking about :
YouTube - Philadelphia Eleven Arrested at OutFest 2004
Max sentence of 47 years in jail for singing Gospel music on the sidewalk, and they were charged with ethnic crimes. Ethnic crimes!? Since when is sexual orientation included in ethnicity? |
And? Freedom of assembly is allowed to both the Christian and Gay groups in that video. The charges of obstruction are total bull, applying only to government attempt, not a counter protest by other free citizens.
Philadelphia had every right to charge said characters under law, since sexual orientation is included within the 'ethnic crimes' law. Complaining about sexuality not being ethnic in nature is pointless - this is a hate-crime law and is meant for prosecution of aggressive bigotry. They could have called it anything they wanted and it would make little difference.
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GEE IT SURE IS 2002 IN HERE
Urban Legends Reference Pages: Islam Studies in California Schools
Enjoy your reality.
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School policy told her no proselytizing, and public school is in-fact government property - that is school funding being used to host the ceremony is government funding.
They not only had every right to demand valedictorian speeches remain secular, they had the right to enforce it. You are free to state whatever your belief may be. I'm sure she did so incessantly, being one to break a school policy on something as prestigious and guarded as the valedictorian address over such a thing. But, like how you cannot have a specific denominational prayer spoken before a public school football match, so too can you not allow appearances of supporting one faith over any other. The school has to either allow ALL forms of religious expression from state-funded pulpits, or none at all.
This particular school chose none at all, apparently. So I couldn't invoke the name of Allah in my speech. Big whoop. Too many people confuse true pious worship with arrogant showboating.
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These are just a few examples of how Christians are being silenced.
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Look, just because a certain brand of faith (as in it's only a certain kind of Christians looked down on somewhat) is no longer
haute culture is no grounds for crying martyrdom. We've yet to throw them to the lions (well, maybe to the vampires in many horror movies) and people are totally free to preach whatever they want on public property, so long as it is not subversive to public order and, in some states and cities, overly offensive or callous towards another group.
The Philadelphia Eleven bit it for preaching the standard God-hates-fags fare (unless you somehow believe a homosexual gang in bright pink shirts jumped them over preaching Jesus making tons of fish for everyone). Philadelphia believed their actions constituted one qualified for a breach of hate-crime laws. Whatever. Preach on the sidewalk about humility and forgiveness and love. Leave the hate-speech for private property.