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Originally Posted by GDwarf
Burden of proof is always on the positive claim, not the negative.
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I didn't say it did fall upon the negative claim. I just said its within my rights to ask for your proof as well. Just as its within your rights to deny me that until I have presented my proof.
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Originally Posted by GDwarf
Sure, but you need to provide something inexplicable that would be evidence.
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As I said, miracles and "twin ESP."
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Twin ESP has never been shown to actually happen.
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Yes it has. Two stories come to mind. One was where the one girl got her foot caught in railroad tracks or something, and her twin was at home. The girl stuck in the tracks started freaking out, and her twin told their parents that she was in trouble. They got her out of the tracks just before a train hit her.
The other is about how the twins lived on opposite side of the country, and one had a heart attack. The other felt pains in his chest that were unable to be explained.
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As for miracles, which ones, what evidence is there?
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This one would be tougher to show to someone who doesn't believe in God or the Bible.
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First we need some evidence that these inexplicable things actually happened.
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Most have not been documented, but the two cases of Twin ESP have both been on either 60 Minutes or Dateline or something. It was quite some time ago that I saw it.
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Originally Posted by GDwarf
I could just say: "My pet dog can fly. Since you can't disprove that I must be right." Obviously that doesn't work, but it's exactly what you're doing.
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If you paid attention to my post, thats not what I said at all. I'm saying that if you just say that the unexplained things were not proof, but then cannot explain them yourself, your claim that they aren't proof is incorrect. If you can't prove my evidence is not valid, then you can't just write off my evidence as false.
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I'm an atheist since there is no evidence for God.
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There ya go. Because you don't seem able to believe in supernatural things such as God, it would be that much harder to get you to believe in magic because you have more than likely already written off the supernatural as all false.
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I'd like to think I'm more open minded than that (I did, after all, go from being very religious to atheist.), but, of course, there's no way you'd be able to tell if that's the case or not.
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Its possible you are. I never said you weren't. I'm just stating that there are a lot of people like that out there, and it would be very hard to get a theory like this to be accepted.