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Originally Posted by Eralk Fang That's cultural, which can change, not racial. That can change in the Hyrule/Termina translation, as general society is far more secular in Termina. |
We can't really say anything racial about these two people because everyone in Ikana is dead and gone. We need to turn to what little we can get from the rotted appearances of King Ikana, his guards, and the designs and paintings on and in the castle. Also, with a well in the area that had some zombies and creatures of the supernatural in there, Ikana could have very well been some kind of Kakariko instead of Hyrule. Looking at the castle in Youtube videos, it reminds me more of the Gerudo Fortress (I know that isn't in Kakariko) than Hyrule Castle. There's parallels, and then there's just different.
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Originally Posted by Eralk Fang However, I find it strange they weren't given a different role. In a sea of counterparts with vastly different roles, they stick out. |
If I recall correctly, they were simply just normal composers for Ikana (or descended from them, considering Sharp's wish to Skull Kid to bring back everyone in the land), not royal composers. Now, if they were just mediocre composers for Ikana, they'd be filling their model-possible roles more than filling a parallel (I doubt Nintendo would make living versions of them) and with the soul-selling angle (I'm not sure that they could sell their souls if they were dead), they might have come from Clock Town but had roots in Ikana. In fact, I think it was only Flat who held an interest in Ikana, possibly meaning that they didn't come from there themselves, or that they were nowhere near as important to the royalty as their Hylian counterparts.
Also, the fact that "their" song was the Song of Storms instead of the Sun's Song might be (weakly) hinting towards some kind of Kakariko angle, though it is more plausible that there was just stormy weather between the two (they hated each other.)
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Originally Posted by Eralk Fang Again, sorry if I was vague- wisdom doesn't mean peace, however. The Hylians of Hyrule are more of a scholarly and "advanced" society, while Ikana is obviously a military culture. Both, however, are warlike. And that's exactly it- the Hylians are known for their wars. The Sheikah dwindled in the Hylians' various wars and began to recount Hyrule's bloody history in the Shadow Temple. However, in Hyrule, they are successful. What if they lost? |
Well, regarding Hyrule, they had about ten years of peace time, so the historical/advanced angle could be fairly new, and just because Hyrule is doing the best doesn't necessarily mean that only Hyrule has a historical/advanced background. Ikana, looking at the fact that a gossip stone mentioned a castle garden and the ReDeads were once dancers, doesn't seem so much a military culture than a people who fought a war and tied (but everyone died.) The Hylians are also only really known for one war specifically relating to them, and that was the Imprisioning War, due to the fact that the Fierce War was between everyone. Other than a monarchy, Hyrule and Ikana really don't seem to be parallels. Also, while the armor of the Clock Town guards resembles that of Hyrule Castle's guards, King Ikana's guards appear to be dressed differently.
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Originally Posted by Eralk Fang Gor Coron says this, and he knows where the Hidden Village is. |
Eralk, if the Ikanians were Hylian parallels, I don't see how all of Ikana would be destroyed: The Ikanian people could still fight, and Ikana doesn't appear to have any Sheikah counterparts, though Ikana fought against the Garo.
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Originally Posted by Eralk Fang The only people allowed into Zora's Domain are those who know Zelda's Lullaby, which must be taught by a member of the Royal Family to whomever wishes to enter. It's not a big group. |
Zora's Domain is the Zora's home (and seeing as how all water comes from it, it seems sensible to protect it), and there must be a way in other than the waterfall path considering that Ganondorf reached Jabu-Jabu. While King Hyrule trusted Ganondorf, I seriously doubt that he'd teach him the song of the Royal Family. Finally, in the Child Timeline the Zora are conducting a local search to find Princess Ruto. In the Adult Timeline, they are all frozen. They don't have much of an opportunity to get out.
Now granted, while it takes place a hundred years or so after
OOT, in
TP the Zora actually travel a lot. There are Zora found at Death Mountain in
TP, and if they'd go to Death Mountain of all places, I can see them traveling to other places as well (save for Snowpeak and the Gerudo Desert.)
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Originally Posted by Eralk Fang The Deku of Hyrule are different. They're totemic, which goes to a Native American influence, not the general European/British influence of the Deku of Termina. |
Where are the totemic symbols? In
OOT, we only saw enough of them to know that they lived somewhere in the Lost Woods, had businessmen, and regarded Queen Gohma as their actual Queen.
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Originally Posted by Eralk Fang This is from the Deku Scrubs who grade your masks- I believe this is when you show them the Skull Mask. |
Maybe that could be their religion? They do see Queen Gohma as their Queen and they did say sacred. What they'd pray to, I don't know, but the totem could be about religious beliefs. Regardless, looking at Deku Scrub society in Termina, with palace guards who tell the time (I think), a worried king (as a parallel to the unworried King of Hyrule), and a kidnapped princess, the Terminian Deku Scrubs appear to be more of a parallel than the Hylian Royal Family, with a butler instead of a bodyguard. While Zelda has a history of getting kidnapped as well, I interpret the kidnapped princess scenario as more a glue between the Hylians and Deku Scrubs to point out their connection.