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Originally Posted by Blizzaga
Who's sucking up? I'm saying it how it is. There would be nothing gained for "sucking up," so why bother to do so?
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So because we go against an absurd stance against a key element in gaming, that means we complain too much? There's an obvious hint of biased in your previous post.
To rephrases my previous words more bluntly: at least I'm not a fanboy.
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No, I won't be your errand boy. Try doing a bit of your own research. It would be good to start with E3 Mario Galaxy Round Table or something of the sort.
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Meh. I'll take your word for it.
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I buy whatever games I wish to buy and have fun. Therefore, I have a right to complain about people complaining because they seem to be complaining about nothing to me. The same goes to Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Party games, Sonic the Hedgehog in 3-D, and "milking a franchise." Of course, people have their own opinions and have a right to share them, which is why I am voicing mine.
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So, if we're complaining about
nothing to you, then why complain about us complaining about nothing? Why debate when (according to you) there's apparently nothing to be debating about?
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But know this. There will always be something to complain about. No matter how much Nintendo would meet your demands, you'd just find something else to complain about. I, for one, enjoy what I have most of the time. The only game in my collection that I'll ever complain about is Hexen for '64. I have traded the game with a friend for it and have regretted that ever since.
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Nintendo
doesn't meet my (or
our) demands though, obviously.
Also: you my friend are a very hard person to displease. That, or fanboyism comes to mind
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Maybe. Maybe not. I wouldn't care either way.
Wouldn't care. If it's fun, I'll play it. End of story. I still love Wii Sports. Tennis is a blast, Golf is a hoot, Baseball is da bomb, and Bowling reminds me of how much I suck at the real game.
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The blowing mechanics of Wii Sports are dreadful. It's not even remotely close to the real thing.
Enjoy your (for the most part) crappy casual games.
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Please explain to me how linking casual and hardcore gaming in order to find harmony in difficulty is ignoring hardcore completely?
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Must I keep re-quoting Miyamoto? He
doesn't want hardcore games. He doesn't think that's the future. They should just be so easy that somehow they're
fun.
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Originally Posted by Miyamoto
But I think the future is games that are not difficult and yet very fun to play.
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One word: Fun. It's a brand new discovery. You should really check it out some time.
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Most of the games Wii produces are crap. Crappy games aren't fun to me. I'm not in elementary or beginning middle school. . .
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Here we are with the old "Kiddie" argument all over again. Rated E means for everyone. Everyone can enjoy it. It's not rated K or 8+. It's rated E for everyone. Why can't anyone understand such a simple concept?
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Disney games are rated E for everyone; yet I hardly doubt "anyone" can enjoy their games. You make it sound as though every rated E game is widely accepted by everyone.
It should be obvious that if it's rated E, it's more or likely geared towards kids. Just by looking at all the E rated games should be more enough proof of that.
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Success is success, so quit yer whinin'. Obviously, Nintendo is doing something right. I could have complained similarly (which I have) about "graphics is everything" and superior hardware being cheap (or rather expensive) gimmicks that people flocked to support and forgetting to have fun. However, I believe Nintendo's success is a lot more positive than that.
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I'm not whining. I'm stating my opinion on Miyamoto's absurd stance over hardcore gaming and Nintendo's recent lack of difficult (triple-A quality) titles.
Good for Nintendo and all their success. If Nintendo continues down this path of their gimmicky "no challenge if the
most fun" games, then this will be the last Nintendo console I'll purchase.
Absolutely nothing justifies the fact that Nintendo's games are more about "innovation" and "fun" (for youngster children) and less about "challenging," "lasts more then ten hours" and "worthwhile." Little to none of their games have any real depth any more. I can rent three Wii games and return them all, beaten within the rental period (yes, I've actually done that). All of which provided no real challenge and hardly left me satisfied.
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Originally Posted by Mirren
Doesn't mean he's going to get it every time.
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I'd say he's been pretty successful doing so this past year.
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And if third parties had been there, we would've had more T and M rated games, thus lessening that kiddy image.
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Why weren't they there at first is what I'm trying to get at. Nintendo
started the GC with kiddy games.
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On their own, Nintendo's franchises aren't going to do a whole lot, that's my point.
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Agreed.
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I generally save sarcasm for when I want to mock someone without going so far that I could get a warning. This is not one of those cases.
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I see. Thanks for showing me some respect.
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As long as the majority of their franchises have multiple difficulty settings, will always remain hard (Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, F-Zero) or they're just not meant to be very difficulty (Zelda, Animal Crossing) I honestly think you're worrying far too much.
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It's been so long since Nintendo's new stance on gaming and their serious lack of triple-A quality games, I guess I've gotten used to the idea of them abandoning "hardcore" gamers entirely. Long before since this interview, actually. You're right though. I am worrying a little more then I should be. I'm over-analyzing Nintendo's situation.
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"Lately" will be over soon. In about a week and a half, we'll get Prime 3, and the start of an avalanche of notable titles from Nintendo and third parties.
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Hopefully.
And with that, I come to my final words (
hopefully. . .). You're right Mirren. Nintendo is supposedly releasing a few triple-A quality titles before the end of the year. I'm hoping that it'll compensate for the serious lack of good games this past year (unlikely, but still. . .). Only time will tell. Until the end of the year, I shouldn't judge Nintendo's future quality of games by just addressing what (crap) Nintendo's been releasing only as of lately.
However, as I stated before, the only thing is that seeing Nintendo's recent titles, then seeing Miyamoto say something like this really puts me at an uneasy state of mind for the future of Nintendo though.
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Too hard to decide, I think all of you are very pessimistic, melodramatic, distrusting and impatient.
To be honest.
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I'm not showing
that much emotion in my posts; so I can't say I'm showing melodramatic behavior. I don't know how you got the impression of "distrust". Trust has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
I will say that I admit to being pessimistic and impatient. One only has so much patience though. I, personally, have been waiting for Nintendo to show us some more "hardcore" games for quite a while.
I'd say our pessimism is perfectly excusable. Nintendo needs to be critiqued for their obvious, highly noticeable faults (with the Wii's games) as of lately.